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  • From: ireland
d-day supplies
Posted by david on Tuesday, July 7, 2009 10:30 AM
i am planning a large d-day dio and i am rounding up supplies but two things have stopped me dead still number one :barbed wire havent a clue what to do. and number two: hedgehogs the things on the sand stoping amphibians and things coming on the beach dont know were to get thoughs either or maybe i could scratch build them? help needed please!
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  • From: Joplin, Mo
Posted by figure freak on Tuesday, July 7, 2009 10:42 AM

for barbed wire, i get a piece if windo screen and cutt the little squares right down the middle and then twist it i would just scratchbuild hedgehogs

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  • From: Charlottesville Va
Posted by Stern0 on Tuesday, July 7, 2009 10:53 AM

Eduard makes awsome photo-etched barbed wire and you can find tank traps also....scratching them is the way to go though....here is a pick of the barbed wire and Tamiya hedgehogs...

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  • From: clinton twp, michigan
Posted by camo junkie on Tuesday, July 7, 2009 11:00 AM
verlinden also (or at least used to not sure anymore) make p.e. barbed wire! the hedgehogs can be made from styrene. in fact im almost certain evergreen/plastistruct makes those shapes already...all you have 2 do is cut and glue!
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  • From: Las Vegas, Nevada
Posted by model maniac 96 on Tuesday, July 7, 2009 11:00 AM
Well, Tamiya makes a set of barriers that includes some hedgehogs, and for barbed wire, well here is a link to making home made barbed wire, http://home.wowway.com/~tinweasel/barbed_wire_tut.html, and of you don't like that then here is a link to some Verlinden photo etched barbed wire, http://www.internethobbies.com/vrl-51.html, that is as much as I can help you there.


Hope it helps, Jim
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Posted by david on Saturday, July 11, 2009 5:40 AM
thank you very much
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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:35 AM
 figure freak wrote:

for barbed wire, i get a piece if windo screen and cutt the little squares right down the middle and then twist it i would just scratchbuild hedgehogs

Ditto window screen... By far the cheapest alternative to photo-etch... Wire obstacles take a LOT of wire and the PE sets are expensive, double so, since there's nowhere near enough wire to make more than a couple rows of tangle-foot... To do it right, you need feet of barbed wire, not the inches that come in a PE set...

 Take the screen, cut it on each side of a run, then twist two or three strands together (for 1/35th and larger, that is) and voila!... Barbed wire galore... Or, if you're a Texan like I am, it's "Bob War"... 

It's not a very good for substitute for modern concertina or razor wire, but for WW1 & WW2, it works like a charm...

Here's a quick sketch of what we're talking about after you cut it...

You can also find copper screen in arts & craft stores that's a much finer mesh than window screen, and although it costs more than window screen, will allow you to do more precise wire work... I like steel m'self, because I can find pieces of it here & there by strolling through about any alley on nice day that's trashed and you can just "recycle" it... It's likely already rusty so the color's done for ya too...  If not, burn it and then let it sit out in the rain and it'll rust up quickly, and then you can roll it up and add it your scratchbuilding materials bin... A   3 x 3 foot piece will likely supply all the wire you need to do the whole Dog Red (or a third of Easy Red) sector on Omaha Beach...  Well, not the whole sector, but more than enough for you to suggest it does...Wink [;)]

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  • From: East TX
Posted by modelchasm on Saturday, July 11, 2009 7:38 PM

This is a nice trick. I've never used it myself .... but I be sure to keep it in mind!

"If you're not scratching, you're not trying!"  -Scott

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  • From: Oregon
Posted by falschimjager on Monday, July 13, 2009 10:23 AM
Yeah wow i'm gonna have to try that, if i have one thing in surplus it's window screen (but does it work with plastic window screen?)
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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:08 PM
Plastic would work, but I doubt it works as well as steel or aluminum... Metal will stay in the position you put it in..

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  • From: Oregon
Posted by falschimjager on Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:24 PM
I tried this with some windowscreen and i figured out i bought the kind that is weaved together so when i clipped it all my barbs fell off. So watch out for the weaved kind.
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