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British 1st Airborne Holland
Posted by *INDY on Saturday, August 29, 2009 5:49 PM

 "  British 1st Airborne Holland "                 The real subject of this build is the four British Paratroopers, as they are moving past a Panzerkampfwagon IV ausf. J ( Tamiya kit 1/35 scale, with Eduard photo-etch, & individual styrene track links from Academy) which tends to take center-stage, with a backdrop of a ruined Gothic Church (From Verlinden) , set on 2 sheets of Verlinden Resin Coblestones, painstakenly cut and joined into 1 roadway.

The Paratroopers:
    1st-all 4 of these guys are top shelf resin figures-Three from Verlinden & 1 from Platoon(the Stengun man)--he is really somthing OOTB.  Verlinden #1756 Red Devils British Paras WWII was an a,amazing set-I mean the box painting is OK-but the sculpting was way better than I thought I was getting!!(If you ask me I like my painting better, but they didnt ask me,lol. I changed the arm position a little on the kneeling chap, and added alot of accessories (he came with none) The other guy just needed a new Lee,(from  a DML kit) as the supplied one was kinda melted looking, also a nice sling for his rifle(I redid those slings many times to get just the right look, while I had reference close!) The Bren gunner(from Verlinden too) was the biggest mess I've run into in my short career. The casting was just a confusing mess, and in some ways Im lucky for what I got, but I took alot of time, replaced the gunbarrel, sights, handle, bipod, and filled ,and sanded the devil out of the torso fittings and somehow I got a 1st class hero out of it!        All four were carefully built, patched, and near fully equiped to start before painting. Tamiya TS-3 Dark yellow was used as a primer/basecoat(its the perfect undercoat for fleshtones,and the wool trousers,  and most of the equipment webbing.  Using the airbrush is recommended to avoid  fouling details, but, if you are really careful, the rattlecan is better as a primer for the Tamiya acrylics I like to use. That spray paint is just the tuffest thing in models.  So after its cured a day or two, I begin to layer on flesh tones, and base coats. I try to get everything basecoated before I try any shading tones or effects. All this is done with the tamiya acylics, but you should note that for me, Artist acylics are very useful too(though not as flat looking)I also use Floquil Solvent-based paints as well as good old Testors Enamels. Weathering is done with pigment powders from Mig Productions & Doc O'brians.  These same paint sets were used to finish the street and ruins as well.

 The PanzerWreck:
    Battle damage was played up a bit I think(not quite Hollywood) but I  may say, a little extra graphic. That Tamiya suspension does Not have any articulation possible, you may know--I had to cut it apart and epoxy & pin everything as I thought I wanted it to sit on the ruble I hadn't built yet! It is just that sort of imagining I love doing, though, at the time I must admit it was a bit of a bugaboo.

The Church :
     Is nicely cast hydrocal plaster made in the U.S.A.  by Verlinden Productions #2122, Church Corner 1/35 scale (about $35)  It comes in about 12 pieces(mine had broken into about 15, but no matter)  I did of course take all manner of weapon to those walls,( short of my hatchet and chainsaw) to enhance the shelling damage and also free up enough stones to form most of the rubble piles--so I cut apart the bricks as I tore down pieces, mostly  with my 5"Excel pull out saw(worked amazing) and detailed the damage with scriber & files.   The Iron-bound wooden door was entirely scratchbuilt from strip styrene over foamcore, and fitted with a brasswire handle.  Broken window glass was made from some frosted vinyl sheet, cut and cracks drawn on with a good 'ole #11 blade.

The German Commander:
    Did not fair too well, and this is clear once one focuses on the coppala. I wanted the burned German to be clear, and partialy out of the turret, yet subtle enough that it wasn't the first thing seen when viewing the Dio. I am most proud of this(figure)as it is entirely scratchbuilt from different gauge brass wire soldered together(my 1st go at this)and covered in resin, paint & pigments, to a good effect I believe.

A coule of (X-tra) figures from masterbox(scaled too small) didn't make the cut :

Well, there it is.. in far too much detail I imagine.....Kelly Shaw tells me this should be seen in FSM but hasn't been given a slot yet as of now. In any case, I'm happy with my 4th ever Diorama, hope you dig it.

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Posted by jadgpanther302 on Saturday, August 29, 2009 6:02 PM
Pretty sweet! Love the dio and the tank. I cant believe you put the commander in their and i wouldnt have noticed it right away! Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by *INDY on Sunday, August 30, 2009 2:11 PM

 jadgpanther302 wrote:
Pretty sweet! Love the dio and the tank. I cant believe you put the commander in their and i wouldnt have noticed it right away! Thumbs Up [tup]

Thanks & Thanks Jad.  Yeah the BBQ'd Commander was something I thought of from the start & did last. Here's another pic of him :

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:24 PM

Outstanding work... Gruesome, what with the Crispy Critter, but still outstanding...

Turret fires.. The very thought of one always scared hell outta me when I was on M109s... Brrrrrr...

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:29 PM
Very nice...I've seen some burnt bodies pulled out of tanks and you pretty much nailed it...the body usually shrinks to about 2/3rds of its original size when burned like that...
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Posted by *INDY on Monday, August 31, 2009 2:22 AM

Hans ~ Thank you, an outstanding compliment from you.

Manny ~ Thank you as well. I really did alot of experimenting to get some results with the soldering, and though I'd seen a number of those photos, I worked from the image in my mind more than any one reference. Hey ~   How bout that rust, considering this panzerwrecks been sitting for unknown number of days/weeks right? 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 31, 2009 10:15 AM
 INDY wrote:

Hans ~ Thank you, an outstanding compliment from you.

Manny ~ Thank you as well. I really did alot of experimenting to get some results with the soldering, and though I'd seen a number of those photos, I worked from the image in my mind more than any one reference. Hey ~   How bout that rust, considering this panzerwrecks been sitting for unknown number of days/weeks right? 

 

The rust is okay because actually fire oxidizes steel right away so a freshly burned out wreck will be rusted, not from moisture, but from the heat of the fire...
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Posted by Kelly_Zak on Monday, August 31, 2009 3:10 PM
Indy, I absolutely love this dio, awesome composition. The torched commander is really well done, I'm sure there will be the ones who won't like commander, but it does depict the hell of war. The rust and burnt shell look great. Here's a question, is the white residue ash? I see it on alot of burnt out pics of tanks, just wondering, almost looks like fire retardant or something. One teeny thing I would add is maybe some spent shell casings for the Bren gunner laying down. One sweet piece of work! Bow [bow]
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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, August 31, 2009 8:34 PM

The torched commander is really well done, I'm sure there will be the ones who won't like commander, but it does depict the hell of war.

Anyone who does object should stick to training scenes if they're gonna build military dioramas and keep 'em "G"-rated... Although gruesome, the TC's corpse isn't overdone.. (Ya, I know, I know.. Big Smile [:D])  There's just enough gore to let you know what happened, that it went up like a Roman Candle when it got hit... Contrary to popular belief, there's a crew inside tanks and there isn't an "A-Team" ending to a fight...Not everyone will get out... 

Here's a question, is the white residue ash?

Looks like ash to me.. Rubber burns out whiteish grey, kinda like charcoal..

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Posted by deafpanzer on Monday, August 31, 2009 8:34 PM

Sign - Ditto [#ditto]Sign - Ditto [#ditto]Sign - Ditto [#ditto]  I'd like to know how you managed to apply the white residue ash on the tank!  MIG pigment?  It is so AMAZING!!! Thumbs Up [tup]  It reminds me of what I usually see on the steel used as fire pits at the campgrounds... rusted with white/gray everywhere.   

Hope to see more of your work... keep them coming! Wink [;)]

Andy

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Posted by psstoff995's lbro on Monday, August 31, 2009 10:16 PM

Outstanding indy! Love the, however gruesome, scratch work on that dead tanker.

Great dio indy!

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 31, 2009 11:09 PM
 Kelly_Zak wrote:
Here's a question, is the white residue ash? I see it on alot of burnt out pics of tanks, just wondering, almost looks like fire retardant or something.
WW2-era rubber burned to a white ash-powder...it is fairly east to find ref pics showing this on burned-out tanks...
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Posted by Grimmo on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 3:41 AM
Indy! That is a fantastic dio! Love the tank! Brilliant!
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Posted by Bodge on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 1:09 PM
LOVELY JUBLYThumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by *INDY on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 7:28 PM

[quote user="Manstein's revenge"]

 Kelly_Zak wrote:
Here's a question, is the white residue ash? I see it on alot of burnt out pics of tanks, just wondering, almost looks like fire retardant or something.
WW2-era rubber burned to a white ash-powder...it is fairly east to find ref pics showing this on burned-out tanks...

Kelly ~ Many Thanks  & don't worry-if any one doesn't like it they are likely someone I wouldn't listen to anyways. The white stuff is what ever is left of a roadwheel tire after it burns at a really high temperature, so yes, ash I guess. I just modeled it after what I'd seen in many(hundreds?)of old photos of tank wrecks. Sadly alot of those tanks we're(ours), especially the one's in the best of the pictures.  ~  Oh the littered shell casings is a great idea ~ I had considered it, but wanted to convey a gunner covering his unit during careful movement, not an active engagement, ( maybe the moments before one opens up.)(I was really tempted though)

Hans & Manny ~ Thanks again & thanks for backing me up on the look of the burnt tires & the casualty. I'ts great to know that your observations are like mine on these things. Hans, hope you only have nice dreams now.

Andy ~ I didn't have the Mig white(I got some now from Models By Mickster--they're going out-of-biz! Go check his sale!) For the tires I painted them in Floquil Grimy Black(a dark grey)Then dry brushed w/ Floquil Primer Grey, then again with Primer lightned w/ White(especially on the burned tires)Let this cure, and next session brushed on some Polly Scale Clear Flat(looks white & milky brushed on)and before it dried , heavily brushed on some fine White pigment powder from Doc O'brians, and a little bit of Black powder too.

Grimmo ~ Thank you very much

Bodge ~ Thanks for dropping by ( I'll take that as a compliment, though I haven't heard it before)

 

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Posted by psstoff995 on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 8:09 PM

Thats amazing, I had seen this one on the groundwork thread, never even noticed the body until you posted the pictures, I think it was done with incredible taste considering- very accurate and subtle, but still there.

Well done on this one Indy. Although I agree, some Bren gun shells would look nice.

-Chris

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Posted by deafpanzer on Tuesday, September 1, 2009 10:18 PM

Indy- Many thanks for the tip about sales happening at M&M hobby shop!  Bought all kind of MIG pigments and accessories that they had in stock. Tongue [:P] You were right... a lot cheaper than what I have seen at LHS!!!  I will definitely try your method when I work on a burnt tank or vehcile.

THANK YOU!!! Thumbs Up [tup]

Andy

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Posted by *INDY on Wednesday, September 2, 2009 10:23 PM

 ~ Chris ~ Thank you so much, I hope to keep improving, and have alot of projects in the works.

 ~ Andy ~ Right on Buddy ! Glad you found some stuff you could use there. It's really too bad they are going, they we're one of the best and always had the best price on Mig- even before the liquidation. He's near out of them now.I just checked and prices just went down a little more !He has Alpine and Tank figures for about $10 !

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Posted by nico86326 on Thursday, September 3, 2009 9:28 AM

Great job INDY. That is one hell of a crispy critter. Love the DIO though. Keep up the great work.

 

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Posted by *INDY on Thursday, September 3, 2009 7:57 PM
 nico86326 wrote:

Great job INDY. That is one hell of a crispy critter. Love the DIO though. Keep up the great work.

Thank you Nico, will do    Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by Buddho on Friday, September 4, 2009 7:07 AM
Indy, congrats on a wonderfully done diorama. The figures, tank and setting are excellent!

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Posted by modelchasm on Friday, September 4, 2009 3:33 PM

I like this one, and its finished wonderfully ... but my only question about it is the figure set in front of the tank ...

If the "squad" is moving forward, out from behind the tank, from the open church door, that figure is stopped and completely exposed there ... Just looks like he's moving forward, ahead of the crew serve, but then stopped. I could picture him there if he still had forward momentum, but as is just looks a little funny, IMO.  

Just my 2 cents .....

Again, nice job.

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Posted by *INDY on Friday, September 4, 2009 7:05 PM
 modelchasm wrote:

I like this one, and its finished wonderfully ... but my only question about it is the figure set in front of the tank ...

If the "squad" is moving forward, out from behind the tank, from the open church door, that figure is stopped and completely exposed there ... Just looks like he's moving forward, ahead of the crew serve, but then stopped. I could picture him there if he still had forward momentum, but as is just looks a little funny, IMO.  

Just my 2 cents .....

Again, nice job.

First thanks Scott, and thanks for droppin by. There was (1) other comment once about the lieutenant being a little too far away from his men in the Dio. My thinking was he was leading a tenitive advance, and had stepped between the church & tank, stopped & kneeled to stay low(possibly behind (more) unseen ruins) and as he pauses, signals to the para in the door-arch to 'hold'(who is looking directly at his outstreached,rear-facing hand)He doesn't seem to see safety in further "foward momentum", and at about that time the 'Sten man' seems to locate the enemy, pointing it out to the 'Bren man", so he can better engage suppresive fire at the right moment.

If he had been "totaly exposed' though,this would serve all accounts of the brazen bravery displayed often in many real life accounts of Brits in command. I've read many stories of our Vets who couldn't believe the confidence(some say foolhardy luck) these troops had in openly confronting the Axis on the battlefield. Such is the lagacy of the showy red baret(though partly so they could recognize each-other)which comes straight down from the day of the  big bright Red-Coats(always seem to present a nice target, eh?)

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Posted by *INDY on Friday, September 4, 2009 8:42 PM

 Buddho wrote:
Indy, congrats on a wonderfully done diorama. The figures, tank and setting are excellent!

Buddho, thank you for the kind & gracious words

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Posted by falschimjager on Saturday, September 5, 2009 2:30 AM
Is it just me or doews the brit with the bren look like Infantry (i'm not an expert on british uniforms but the helmet looks too slopped and has no camo netting, and the uniform is uncamofladged)
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Posted by *INDY on Saturday, September 5, 2009 3:53 AM

He's Commando, not infantry. He's an in-the-field replacement to the unit(that's my story)

Anyways seems more interesting to me than having them all identical.

His MK III (Late war Brit Helmet is fitted with a camo cover.(That was an improvisation.)

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, September 5, 2009 7:55 AM

I've read many stories of our Vets who couldn't believe the confidence(some say foolhardy luck) these troops had in openly confronting the Axis on the battlefield.

One anectdote from the Battle of Arnhem that always stuck in my mind was that of a Brit Para who was confronted by his platoon leader during the house-to-house fighting... I can't remember it verbatum, but it went something like this: A couple of Paras were hunkered down in the ground floor of a house.  When asked by their Lieutenant if they'd been taking fire from anything heavier than small-arms, the Corporal replied, "They've been throwing everything at us but the bloody kitchen stove."  Just after those words left his mouth, there was big BOOM!, debris and dust flew everywhere, and when the dust cleared, there sat a kitchen stove that had dropped from the floor above.  The Corporal, shaking off the debris, remarked to his comrade, "I knew the buggers were close, but I didn't think they could hear us TALKING!"

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Posted by *INDY on Saturday, September 5, 2009 5:52 PM

L.O.L.  !  God. Hans, what a funny story !  Yeah, stuff like that.  I was thinking before about recounts from some American Vets from The Normandy landings, seeing the relaxed easy-going approach the British assualt troops seemed to have. In the midst of the chaos of hitting the beach, some of them actually stopped to set up to brew a cup'a before carrying out the assault. While some had joked of it,(as in the film'The Longest Day') these guys actually took a tea break! At least according to witnessess......

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Posted by captfue on Saturday, September 5, 2009 9:38 PM

Indy this is one realy good looking dio. I like your work.

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Posted by *INDY on Sunday, September 6, 2009 10:52 PM
 captfue wrote:

Indy this is one realy good looking dio. I like your work.

Thank you ! & Thank you

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