SEARCH FINESCALE.COM

Enter keywords or a search phrase below:

The Monument Men. Some great Dio ideas

2142 views
10 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    April 2004
  • From: Boston MA
The Monument Men. Some great Dio ideas
Posted by vespa boy on Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:06 AM

I've been reading about the Monument Men who were charged by the Roberts Commision to protect cultural Heritage in Europe and later Japan during WWII. They were responsible for the return of many looted items to the correct owners/museums. Lots of great dio moments

 

At Schloss Neuschwanstein [remember Doogs 1/200 scale dio of the castle] in southern Bavaria, Captain James Rorimer supervises the safeguarding of art stolen from French Jews and stored during the war at the castle (April-May, 1945)

 

Some soldiers with Leonardos "Lady with an Ermine" (this scene was also loosley featured in an episode of the Simpsons)

 

Soldiers Looking at Manet:  American GIs admire In the Conservatory, a masterpiece by Edouard Manet. This painting, from the Kaiser-Friedrich Museum in Berlin, had been brought to the mine for safekeeping. Merkers, April 1945

 

A Rembradnt being recovered from a mine where it was stored.

 

Eisenhower, PAtton, Bradley etc inspecting looted art in a salt mine (very stable humidy, so actually a good palce to store art) in Germany

 

You can read more about them here   http://www.monumentsmenfoundation.org/default.aspx

 

Enjoy.

 

 

 

http://public.fotki.com/nkhandekar

This ain't no Mudd Club, or C.B.G.B.,
I ain't got time for that now

  • Member since
    March 2004
  • From: Spartanburg, SC
Posted by subfixer on Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:39 PM

Great idea, Vespa, but who could create such tiny masterpieces? Shrink them down on a printer, perhaps? Wouldn't that be cheating?

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

  • Member since
    November 2008
  • From: Biding my time, watching your lines.
Posted by PaintsWithBrush on Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:28 PM
One of the greatest goodwill gestures of all time. How easy it would have been for America to do the typical "conquerer thing" and just take hoe all the "prizes". Instead, a conscious effort was made to return as much as possible to the rightful owners.
It was the absolute disgrace of the entire Iraq "war" that we allowed the museum to be ransacked and looted while our troops just stood by and watched.

A 100% rider on a 70% bike will always defeat a 70% rider on a 100% bike. (Kenny Roberts)

  • Member since
    April 2009
  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:16 PM
Subfixer got it right... Vespa has the skill as he has showed us already with his alley work... he can paint tiny masterpieces!  I think it would be cool to see diomaras about this... never ever thought about it before.  You go for it!!!

Andy

  • Member since
    May 2005
  • From: Left forever
Posted by Bgrigg on Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:36 PM
 subfixer wrote:

Great idea, Vespa, but who could create such tiny masterpieces? Shrink them down on a printer, perhaps? Wouldn't that be cheating?

Why would that be considered cheating? Using that logic, decals are cheating!

So long folks!

  • Member since
    March 2004
  • From: Spartanburg, SC
Posted by subfixer on Friday, October 23, 2009 12:19 AM
 Bgrigg wrote:
 subfixer wrote:

Great idea, Vespa, but who could create such tiny masterpieces? Shrink them down on a printer, perhaps? Wouldn't that be cheating?

Why would that be considered cheating? Using that logic, decals are cheating!

Yeah, decals are cheating unless the original was a stick-on. Stencils should mandatory!

 

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

  • Member since
    April 2004
  • From: Boston MA
Posted by vespa boy on Friday, October 23, 2009 9:20 AM

Sub I don't think its cheating to use a reduced image. I certainly could not paint a Manet on a postage stamp...and I can't imagine how cheesey my attempts at painting a miniature masterpiece would be!

 The story, as I see it, is that these guys (about 350 of them in total) saved Europe's cultural treasures,  and if I had to use a reduced and printed image to get the story across, I wouldn't hesitate.

 One a side note, when curators plan out a hang in a museum they often use a 1/24 scale model of the gallery space with 1/24 scale print outs of the art...no one thinks that is cheating!

I'm not going to make a dio on this subject, but I thought it was such a great change from the usual topics of dioramas that I wanted to post it.

PWB really made some great points. Thanks for sharing them

http://public.fotki.com/nkhandekar

This ain't no Mudd Club, or C.B.G.B.,
I ain't got time for that now

  • Member since
    March 2004
  • From: Spartanburg, SC
Posted by subfixer on Saturday, October 24, 2009 1:22 AM
Believe me, I know that decals aren't cheating and I wouldn't expect you to actually attempt to recreate a miniature masterpiece. But it would be entertaining to see your results.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

  • Member since
    March 2007
  • From: NYC
Posted by HM2 Somers on Saturday, October 24, 2009 4:41 PM

I have also thought of a dio like this. Opel truck with the Germans hauling some famous pictures away, I have the truck alomost built but no further. Go for it! Biggest problem will be some fancy frames as in your first picture as I haven't solved that part.

Pam

Pam

  • Member since
    April 2004
  • From: Boston MA
Posted by vespa boy on Monday, October 26, 2009 1:09 PM

Sub: I will not even attempt a miniature painting when Photoshop can do it for me that much better!!

Pam: I think that there are some fancy frames available in 1/12 scale for dollhouses. If you don't find the right ones there you can still use the basic frame and add some shell details on the corner, some waxed thread to make the C-scrolls between the shells/acanthus leaves details etc. Another thought is to use epoxy putty to make a master mould of a detail and then cast it with plasticine and superglue. It may be a lot of work, but it would be well worth it as it is the centre of the attention for the diorama.

 The simplest solution would be to have the painting in an open faced moving crate so the painting is seen but the frame is hidden by the wadding that goes around the inside of the plain wooden outer case and the gilded frame.

Or even to have the painting rolled up (like Rembrandt's Night Watch)

 

When a painting is rolled it is always paint side out around as wide a tube as possible (3' is not uncommon), so you could tell exactly what it is in the back of the truck.

http://public.fotki.com/nkhandekar

This ain't no Mudd Club, or C.B.G.B.,
I ain't got time for that now

  • Member since
    April 2004
  • From: Boston MA
Posted by vespa boy on Saturday, November 28, 2009 12:35 PM

Here's a link to some scale frames.

http://www.dollhouseminiatures.com/Accessories/frame1.htm

 

 

 

And the frames for dollhouse mirrors can also be used

 

http://public.fotki.com/nkhandekar

This ain't no Mudd Club, or C.B.G.B.,
I ain't got time for that now

JOIN OUR COMMUNITY!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

SEARCH FORUMS
FREE NEWSLETTER
By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. View our Privacy Policy.