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Tips for mud, and whats under snow?

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  • Member since
    May 2009
  • From: Hobart, Tasmania
Tips for mud, and whats under snow?
Posted by Konigwolf13 on Monday, December 21, 2009 3:39 AM

I've just done a base for 1/76 tiger I'm doing in the wintering GB, so any help on painting mud would be great. Also some info on whats under snow would be good, being from a snow free area all my life, I've no real experience. I assume grass stays green for all of a couple of days (what wasnt mud already), then yellows and dies (how long?). Does this sound right. Otherwise the odd dead leaf, sticks etc. Usual groaund debris?)

Andrew

  • Member since
    March 2008
  • From: The Bluegrass State
Posted by EasyMike on Monday, December 21, 2009 7:19 AM

Snow falls out of the air to the ground -- just like rain.  Anything on the ground at the time the snow begins to fall will be covered by the snow.

You should be able to use Google Images to find several pix of Tigers in the snow.

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  • Member since
    November 2006
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by jadgpanther302 on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 5:58 PM

It depends on te area, time of year and temp. Early winter ground will be soft=mud, mid to late winter ground will be frozen=no or little mud. Temp changes also affect this too. The grass does not exactly die out to yellow but becomes a mix of green and yellow grass.

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    December 2002
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by ajlafleche on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:28 PM

Snow compresses before it can melt if there's any depth to it. A leyer of much more than a few inches (10 or so Cm), which is about ten times the depth in rain, will be compacted to ice lolng before you see the ground under it. Up here, if a street insn't treated during and/or plowed right after a storm and if the temps stay below freezing, you will have ruts, but not be able to see the asphalt, sometimes for weeks at a time. 

 While the statement about mud in the early winter may be true under some circumstances, depending on how cold it's been before the snow, you may have completely frozen ground. There have been times when the ground was completely frozen hard long before any snow fell at all. If you see grass at all, it will be a seer brown/dark yellow though if it's an early snow, it could still be green.

Here are a couple examples from the web.

Deep snow after a vehicle has passed.

Light snow on a rutted field. Note the grass color.

Unplowed road after much traffic.

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  • From: The Bluegrass State
Posted by EasyMike on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 2:14 PM

Tigers in the snow:

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  • From: The Red Hills of South Carolina
Posted by grizz30_06 on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:24 PM

We don't get a lot of snow here in South Carolina but I did live in Colorado for over a year.  I noticed that the snow would insulate the ground.  Meaning that if you dug past the snow the ground would be soft.  But of course if you left it uncovered the ground would freeze in the night.  Where the roads were the ground would also be frozen since the snow was removed.  We did have snow on the ground from Nov to Apr.

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  • Member since
    May 2009
  • From: Hobart, Tasmania
Posted by Konigwolf13 on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:39 PM

thanks for the info, very helpfulYes

Andrew

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    September 2007
  • From: Truro Nova Scotia, Canada
Posted by SuppressionFire on Sunday, January 3, 2010 9:15 AM

Snow is dynamic and litteraly changes by the hour. As mencioned above it depends on how froze the ground was before the snow came, rain followed by sleet then shush turns the ground into mud or 'quagmire' Just like the fall of 41' on the eastern front. The more it is traveled on the worse the sticky goo becomes, eventually impassable. Wet clay is like glue and even walking is very difficult.  Yes it is a insulator, temperatures below -10 celcus eventually stiffen and freeze the ground below. Tracked vehicles in motion creates heat on final drive and rollers, any mud snow or debries stick and MUST be removed when vehicle is parked for the day to prevent freeze up. Many Tiger tanks had the front road wheel removed to axcess the drive sprocket for cleaning.  

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/razordws/GB%20Badges/WMIIIGBsmall.jpg

 

 

  • Member since
    September 2007
  • From: Truro Nova Scotia, Canada
Posted by SuppressionFire on Sunday, January 3, 2010 9:39 AM

Hate to double dip' Just had issue w/ getting a pic...*Front outer of Tiger's road wheels are removed as in last picture by 'EasyMike' Regarding my photo the ground is froze below the snow as its a spring time depiction of winter, Hungary 45' The Jagpanzer is heavy enough to uncover the dirt under the snow as it compacts, sticks to tracks and thrown about. The footprints are not and just look like depressions in the snow  with no dirt showing. 

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/razordws/GB%20Badges/WMIIIGBsmall.jpg

 

 

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