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Pros/cons of plaster kits. Opinions wanted.

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Pros/cons of plaster kits. Opinions wanted.
Posted by downtowndeco on Saturday, April 3, 2010 2:36 PM

While I sell (literally) a ton of the hydrocal kits I make I noticed on  another thread that some modelers just do not like plaster kits. Because I'm always looking to improve our products and keep them more user friendly I'd like to ask why it is that you either like or dislike plaster/hydrocal kits.

I use hydrocal (a hard casting plaster) for my kits because I can make the molds cheaply (which means I can offer a larger variety), the plaster is less expensive than resin, hold great detail, the main structure of most buildings can be glued together & ready to paint in about 15 minutes, the plaster takes paint very nicely and if you have to modify a part it cuts/shapes easily. I guess I'm missing the downside, please enlighten me. Thanks guys.

Randy Pepprock
Dioramas Plus

www.dioramasplus.com

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 3, 2010 2:45 PM

Plaster breaks easily in shipment...every plaster building I've ever ordered was broken when I got it (to some degree)---some to the point of being unrepairable...

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Posted by downtowndeco on Saturday, April 3, 2010 2:53 PM

Thanks for the honest reply.

Speaking only for my company, Dioramas Plus, I do not have a problem with kits arriving broken. The plaster parts are wrapped in bubble wrap, then shrink wrapped to two sheets of thick cardboard, then wrapped in newsprint & finally secured in a thick cardboard box. The parts do not shake, rattle or roll. I once sent a kit to Italy, it came back (address problem) the post office sent it back to Italy, it was returned a second time & when I opened it the kit was still 100% intact..

 

We have a standard offer as well. If you somehow end up with a broken part, for any reason, at any time, I'll send you the replacement parts at no charge, no questions asked.

 

Cheers.

 

Randy Pepprock

Dioramas Plus

 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, April 3, 2010 2:55 PM

I looked at a couple items for sale at a vendor table. The main thing that kept me from buying was the fact that the plaster was broken. Even if it is repairable, the concept of buying something broken does not appeal to me.

 

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Posted by downtowndeco on Saturday, April 3, 2010 2:56 PM

Do you remember who made the kits? Thanks much.

 

Randy Pepprock

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, April 3, 2010 3:04 PM

I'm sorry Randy, but no I do not recall. I didnot pay too much attention there, I just remember that they were some Atlantic Wall bunkers that were perfect for a diorama idea I have.

 

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Posted by downtowndeco on Saturday, April 3, 2010 3:10 PM

OK, thanks. I'll say this. I've sold over 1000+ items at the "auction site" & have a 100% rating. No broken parts. Not to say of the thousands of kits I have shipped  worldwide it has never happened, but 99.9 % of the time they get to where they're going in one piece.

Randy Pepprock

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, April 3, 2010 3:27 PM

Sounds like you have good packaging.Wink Considering what a package has to go thru from sender to receiver....Black Eye

 

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N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by downtowndeco on Saturday, April 3, 2010 3:51 PM

Like I said, the hydrocal does hold the detail well.

 

 

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Randy Pepprock

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 3, 2010 4:36 PM

downtowndeco

Thanks for the honest reply.

Speaking only for my company, Dioramas Plus, I do not have a problem with kits arriving broken. The plaster parts are wrapped in bubble wrap, then shrink wrapped to two sheets of thick cardboard, then wrapped in newsprint & finally secured in a thick cardboard box. The parts do not shake, rattle or roll. I once sent a kit to Italy, it came back (address problem) the post office sent it back to Italy, it was returned a second time & when I opened it the kit was still 100% intact..

 

We have a standard offer as well. If you somehow end up with a broken part, for any reason, at any time, I'll send you the replacement parts at no charge, no questions asked.

 

Cheers.

 

Randy Pepprock

Dioramas Plus

 

 

No problem...I'll tell you what, send me one of your kits and I'll post a "review" in here...if it arrives unbroken, I'll be sold on your packing method.  PM me for my addy...

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Posted by Grimmo on Saturday, April 3, 2010 7:50 PM

i've only made 1 plaster building from Verlinden and thought it was great. The weight in it seems to add the feel and look of a solid wall without it being too fragile. The kit i got had a couple of broken bits in it, but it didnt worry me, as after i glued it and painted it, you couldn't see the breaks. (until i dropped it!) And it's easier to add damage like bullet holes and stiff, and taked paint and weathering easier.

I havent tried the plastic buildings yet, but i do want to do more plaster ones. Will have to order a couple of yours Randy!

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Posted by 101stAirborne on Wednesday, April 7, 2010 5:42 PM

Hey Randy,

I have always wanted to buy one of your kits they look great. and I like plaster kits because they paint easily with acrylics and the weather nice. The only problem is they break when shipped. have you made any new buildings yet?

Models on the bench:

Too many to count!

  

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Posted by downtowndeco on Friday, April 9, 2010 9:00 AM

I'm working on some stuff now. A few smaller pieces w/bases. Here is listing of all of the reviews I was able to find;

http://www.dioramasplus.com/site/?p=323

Randy Pepprock

Dioramas Plus

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 9, 2010 9:04 AM

I'll be doing a review as well very soon.  Randy has been kind enough to send me one of his kits and I will be incorpirating it into one of my dio projects...

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Posted by *INDY on Sunday, April 11, 2010 3:13 AM

Nice work there Muppetstein!  I'll look forward to seeing that pop up

Hey what happened to the prettyboy?

"Well...you gunna pull them pistols, or just whistle Dixie?"

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Posted by Konigwolf13 on Sunday, April 11, 2010 6:33 AM

THREAD HIJACK

 OMG Manny I didn't know you with the new avatar, teach me for going by avatars instead of names. Did FSM wipe your old one causing the downtime?

Back on topic

Whats the international postage cost like for plaster kits?

Andrew

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