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TRM
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  • From: Massachusetts
FW 190: A tribute to Gramp
Posted by TRM on Sunday, October 10, 2010 10:27 AM

 

Hello All,

 

I have not been a member of FSM very long, but have enjoyed scrolling through the build and the vast knowledge the site has to offer.  I have been build models on and off for a while and in the last couple of years I became more involved.  I started a project a short time ago and decided to share.  With a collection of family photos I came across, several of my grandfather from WWII, a am making an attempt to recreate one in particular.(1st below)

I am starting the thread here after a couple of postings on another site. I will be running into A LOT of questions on diorama....certainly after what I have seen here, I will be able to hopefully pry some of the vast knowledge from within.

I will play catch-up rather quickly.  Thank you for stopping by.

A soldier in War

I begin my thread today as sort of a tribute to my Grandfather.  Sadly he passed away the beginning of August.  Briefly, he was one of 13 brothers and sisters.  There were seven brothers, Six all fought in WWII and one in Korea along with the husbands of the sisters as well.  They ALL made it back.  Sometimes the stories of the war would flow and other times it seems like the burden of war was to great to express in words and tears would just flow.  Last month while talking with my Uncle Jimmy, a member of the 1st Army engineers that stormed Omaha Beach on D-Day, he began talking about the war.  I have learned when this generation is willing to talk, you let them go.  Well he talked for over an hour, with story after story.  At one point he began to cry, looking over at me and then saying "I'm sorry" (for crying)....I sternly looked at him and exclaimed,  " don't ever, apologize to me for crying...after what you all have seen and been through, an apology is never needed"!  

Great story about the brothers published in the local paper on Veteran's Day:  http://www.telegram.com/article/20091111/NEWS/911110420/1116

Two things before I get on to the build:   1 - It matters not what country they may come from, they were loved by someone and viewed as a hero by them and their country.  2 - Listen to as many stories while you can, because once they pass, the untold stories pass too.

The Build:

While looking through some old photo (of my Grandfather)  I came across the 1st photo below.  And with a little investigation, the plane turns out to be, to what I am told, a FW 190 (F or G).  I love this picture!  And after seeing some great diorama builds here, I have decided to give a Static Tribute an attempt.  

I will attempt to come close to recreating the photo.  I still have another box of photos to sort through.  There is actually 2 angles shot of this plane that I have found so far.  I walked down the aircraft isle today whilst picking up some brass rod, and it just jumped into my hands....at least that is what I will tell the wife when she asks, "ANOTHER MODEL!!!!!!".  

Most of the kit will most likely end up in the debris field around the plane as well as some "creative license" used in placement. I am really looking forward to this build as it will also make a nice break here and there from the U-69.  The kit is from Eduard and the scale is 1/48.  One hurtle that needs to be over come, will be making the 1/48 version of my grandfather....I have some time here.

As for the kit, Eduard Fw 190F-8, is 186mm long & the wing span is 210mm.  The kit has 325 parts, 2 photo etch sheets, 2 decal sheets.  for the money ($29 USD) Eduard certainly makes a nice kit.  I am tempted to make the kit OTB and not the mangled, dismembered wreck in the photo. ( Maybe if I sneak out later, they will have another one???).  A little bit a scratch and a lot of help along the way (YOU GUYS), I think I will get through it.

 

Since starting the project I have decided against using the Edurard's Kit.  Once I opened it and riffled through it, it is an exceptional kit.  I decided to purchase a second kit (of lesser value) in the belief that most of the kit itself would be destroyed and mangled.  I will be making the Eduard kit soon, just not for this project.

Found this Accurate Models Kit for around $20 and it will do nicely.  Ironically Accurate Models I have heard uses Eduard models in their processes.

The Base:  3/4" plywood and polyisocynate (roofing insulation)

More to come...

 

Cheers!

Regards,

T

 

In Flanders fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place, and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

~John McCrae

TRM
  • Member since
    May 2010
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by TRM on Sunday, October 10, 2010 10:36 AM

A furthering continuation....

 

 

In starting I needed to remove the lower cowl.

This part of the build will be rather quick.  Since there is only a portion of the plane intact.  The hard part for me will be the diorama....Dirt, grass, trees, etc.  This is where I will reach out for A LOT of help.Stick out tongue

I am working on the landing gear, attempting to re-create the planes' positioning in my 1st post.  Also have begun works on the engine itself.  As seen below I began removing the section of the fuselage, as this is not needed....yet.

Thanks for stopping by!

 

Cheers!

Regards,

T

 

In Flanders fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place, and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

~John McCrae

Mic
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  • From: AusTx, Live Music Capitol of the World
Posted by Mic on Sunday, October 10, 2010 11:26 AM

This is gonna be a cool dio... nice that your grandfather will be tributized in the process.

Looks like you have things underway with the aircraft build (wreckage). When you are ready for the groundwork to begin, this forum will have loads of advise and options for you to try. I did a base and groundwork Step By Step a few years back, if case there's anything there that may help out.

I would suggest investing in a small jug of Woodland Scenics static grass. Don't worry about the monotone, or the sheen. You would want to paint this stuff after application.

Best of luck!

Steve M.

On the workbench: every tool, paint, brush, glue I own

TRM
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    May 2010
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by TRM on Sunday, October 10, 2010 2:00 PM

Thank you Steve.  Your Step by Step was very impressive!  Understandable about the "odd man out" solder relieving himself being  being, let's say, relievedStick out tongue  I still would have made him....put him on my desk at work maybe!  Anyway, just reading through your thread I feel smarter all ready. The grass was a huge lead so far. Not completely sure what I have in store for the rest of the scene, but I have plenty of old parts and some scratch ability, not to mention many more pictures of the days he(grandfather) was at that particular place.  Been actually tracing some of the tracks....I will narrow it down in time.

 

Cheers

Regards,

T

 

In Flanders fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place, and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

~John McCrae

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    March 2010
Posted by shoot&scoot on Sunday, October 10, 2010 6:06 PM

I have found that building destroyed vehicles seems to be harder than building representations of working ones.  You have set yourself on an ambitious path and my hat is off to you.  What you propose would do your grandfather proud.  Good luck in your endeavor!

                                                                                                      Pat. 

TRM
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    May 2010
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by TRM on Sunday, October 10, 2010 6:59 PM

Thanks for the kind work Pat.....I would like to think he would be proud.

 

As for destroyed versus working....I figure I have destroyed many things not even trying, maybe it's not so bad.Wink

The worst part was the thought of creating a diorama, now the more I learn, not so much. 

Next hurtle will be finding the correct 1/48 American solder.  Found some, just not quite right.  I may be modifying this part as well.Huh?

 

Cheers!

Regards,

T

 

In Flanders fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place, and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

~John McCrae

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    June 2010
  • From: Australia
Posted by OctaneOrange on Sunday, October 10, 2010 8:06 PM

i hope you see this through, it's only a pity that he isn't around to see it. Plan on displaying the model and photo may help show lookers what it means to you. certainly plenty of opportunity to test your hand at diorama making.

TRM
  • Member since
    May 2010
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by TRM on Monday, October 11, 2010 9:06 AM

I would like to think he is watching....I am truly enjoying this build so far,  Thanks.  I thought of propping some pics around behind afterwords.  A whole montage of things.  The pics below is a piece of a time brought back by him.  The last one is part as well.  The hat is, from what I understand,  An airman's cap.  From where exactly, I do not know.  As a boy he gave it to me, didn't talk too much about it.  I placed it in plastic and stored it away.  Not exactly something you display.  I look at it as part of my Grandfather's history and what he and many others endured.  Still doesn't stop the hairs from standing up when I see it.

And with that.... today I am working on what is left of the engine, and trying to find decent 1/48 "things".  Probably have some pics a little later.  Thanks!

 

Cheers! 

Regards,

T

 

In Flanders fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place, and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

~John McCrae

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    January 2009
  • From: hamburg michigan
Posted by fermis on Monday, October 11, 2010 11:18 PM

WOW, this is a great idea for a dio.

Really cool that you have the photos and that cap too.

Sadly, I have nothing from my gramps 'except for one photo in his navy whites. He was a radio op on TBFs and PBYs, sub patrol on the east coast.

 now, my great gramps though, brought back his helmet and the helmet, german cross, and luger from the uniform that helped him escape during WW1.

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TRM
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by TRM on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 5:26 AM

Fermis, Thanks for sharring!  I have seen some show on the coastal defence forces, impressive bunch of guys!  You should be proud.  I must add that is one nice collection!  Especially the German Helmet.  Very ornate!  I am still working with my aunt to get an old box of war photos she has and there is (should be) two swords he brought back as well.  Just need to work through 89 Years of "life".Smile

 

Cheers!

Regards,

T

 

In Flanders fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place, and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

~John McCrae

Mic
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    June 2009
  • From: AusTx, Live Music Capitol of the World
Posted by Mic on Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:41 PM

fermis

 now, my great gramps though, brought back his helmet and the helmet, german cross, and luger from the uniform that helped him escape during WW1.

 

 

That's a story we need to hear, too. That's awesome!

Steve M.

On the workbench: every tool, paint, brush, glue I own

TRM
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    May 2010
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by TRM on Friday, October 15, 2010 7:51 AM

I agree Mic, Fermis needs to share the "great escape" story.  Now that might make a nice 1/6 diorama!

I love all stories! 

 

Cheers!

Regards,

T

 

In Flanders fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place, and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

~John McCrae

TRM
  • Member since
    May 2010
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by TRM on Saturday, October 16, 2010 4:44 PM

A little continuation....

Regards,

T

 

In Flanders fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place, and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

~John McCrae

TRM
  • Member since
    May 2010
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by TRM on Sunday, October 17, 2010 12:50 PM

Just a little more....

I am "winging" the base....all new to me.

Still need to buy some grass materials and work on some ground cover....but steady as she goes!

 

Cheers!

Regards,

T

 

In Flanders fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place, and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

~John McCrae

Mic
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    June 2009
  • From: AusTx, Live Music Capitol of the World
Posted by Mic on Sunday, October 17, 2010 1:30 PM

Outstanding so far! great detail work on the engine, keep 'em coming!

Steve M.

On the workbench: every tool, paint, brush, glue I own

TRM
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    May 2010
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by TRM on Sunday, October 17, 2010 6:10 PM

Thanks Mic!  The encouragement is always welcome!Cool

Going to purchase some of the ground cover explained in your tutorial, coming up. Long grasses and maybe a couple of trees.  I have more ground debris to make up and such.

Still looking for credible 1/48 US figures.....Tamaya has 2???  I am sure modification will be made. 

 

Cheers!

Regards,

T

 

In Flanders fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place, and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

~John McCrae

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    April 2008
  • From: Charlottesville Va
Posted by Stern0 on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 6:50 PM

Very cool...awsome wrecked effect, and the plant is outstanding...Great work so far!Big Smile

Always Faithful U.S.M.C
TRM
  • Member since
    May 2010
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by TRM on Wednesday, October 20, 2010 5:13 AM

Thanks for the kind words Stern0!  Might I add, superb workmanship on "Sucker Play"!  Your building are out standing!

 

Cheers!

Regards,

T

 

In Flanders fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place, and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

~John McCrae

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  • From: South Carolina
Posted by jetmodeler on Wednesday, October 20, 2010 6:06 AM

Excellent job so far.Yes The engine really looks great.

 

TRM
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    May 2010
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by TRM on Wednesday, October 20, 2010 7:28 PM

Thanks Jetmodeler!  Got some things to add in there I think, but it's moving along.Big Smile

Regards,

T

 

In Flanders fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place, and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

~John McCrae

TRM
  • Member since
    May 2010
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by TRM on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 7:13 PM

Been busy working some site work, not much time to apply myself to hobbies.  That and I am working on a 1/72 U-boat among other things...

 

I played around a little while waiting for some "other" Items to arrive that will be added to the diorama.  The tail section.  I thought of placing it somewhere in the scene as there are bits and sections of other planes strewn around in the photos.  I need to dirty it up a little.  I am sure it will fit somewhere.



Still working on some misc. wiring, trying to add "something" to the emptiness behind the engine.



Cheers!

Regards,

T

 

In Flanders fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place, and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

~John McCrae

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  • From: Northwest Ohio
Posted by Mr Lucky on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 8:30 AM

WOW! This is really looking good! Great detail.

Erik Davis

TRM
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    May 2010
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by TRM on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:42 AM

Thank you for the kind words Eric!  I really like the 51 Bel AirSurprise.  Nice piece of work there!

 

Cheers!

Regards,

T

 

In Flanders fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place, and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

~John McCrae

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  • From: Rothesay, NB Canada
Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:55 AM

Looking good, I'll be keeping an eye on this one. My grandfather was a mechanic with the RCAF, I've got a few dozen pics from his travels through Europe, including a trio of Me262s in dispersal.

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

TRM
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    May 2010
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by TRM on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 6:55 PM

Thanks Vance!  Sounds like Me 262's would make a fine build.  I know the connection between my Grandfather and the build makes it 100 time more enjoyable.  Sign me up for the spectators gallery if you get started!Big Smile

Regards,

T

 

In Flanders fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place, and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

~John McCrae

TRM
  • Member since
    May 2010
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by TRM on Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:28 PM

 In between doing the holiday thing and sanding the U-69, I began to start some more ground cover and one of the add-ons to be added to the diorama.

Light buff to add some fill for the grassy area.  Will tone it down a bit after with the airbrush.  Not shown hear is some of the tall grass that has begun to go down as well....I will get to that.Stick out tongue

Started messing with the jeep.  The grass adding will be tedious but fun, the add-ons will make for nice breaks!

TBC...

 

 

Cheers!

 

Regards,

T

 

In Flanders fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place, and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

~John McCrae

TRM
  • Member since
    May 2010
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by TRM on Sunday, December 26, 2010 5:52 PM

Jeep update...waiting of our Blizzard of 2010 to start,

The first photo is one from the few I got from my Grandfather's collection.  Since, I have a jeep for the diorama now,  well, the rest is self explanatory.


The kit supplies two sets of numbers and with combining the two, I can make the identification number right.

color inverted...

 The decal for the star on the hood however is different. The kit supplies a standard star within the circle.  I the photo the start breaks the circle.  From what I understand the stars were painted with different stencils.  This particular version I read is called an "invasion style".  I think it depended on who was actually painting the vehicles at the time. Not worried about this yet....

I started with the bustle rack (back) or the ten or so other definitions of the steel rack at the rear of the jeep. ;D


The rack first appeared to be angled on the sides, but, after closer examination of a faint line near my grandfather's right arm and searching through a number of pictures online, I am fairly confident that it has a basket shape.

.75mm rod, leftover PE mesh and straps


Brass rod and some more leftovers for the plates

Canopy as seen folded down in the 1st picture, aluminum foil for the cover and brass rod for the rails


Loose fitting of the spare and gas can.  Other junk will follow.

Cheers!

Regards,

T

 

In Flanders fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place, and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

~John McCrae

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    July 2006
  • From: San Francisco, CA
Posted by telsono on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 12:08 PM

Very fine work, they say that making a wrecked vehicle is the Holy Grail of model building, you are working your way up there. For the vehicle star that you need in 1/48 scale, Archer carries a set with the markings you are looking for..

http://www.archertransfers.com/AR48048W.html

I have planned and started a little diorama about my father's uncle Joe who was a motorcycle messanger in WWI. I have no photo's to go by, but at one point he was ambushed on his bike and escaped by playing possum. Chips from the road surface cut along his forehead. As head wound bleed more the Germans thought he was dead, and left him in their hurried advance. He was part of those "da*n engineers!"

You have inspired me to go back and finish what I have started on the vignette/diorama.

Mike T.

Beware the hobby that eats.  - Ben Franklin

Do not fear mistakes. You will know failure. Continue to reach out. - Ben Franklin

The U.S. Constitution  doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. - Ben Franklin

TRM
  • Member since
    May 2010
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by TRM on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 12:17 PM

Mike,

Thank you for the kind words, much appreciated.  Also, thank you for the link.  I forgot about Archer.  I just bought their VIIC Uboat rivet set.  Nice stuff!

Great news, revisiting the earlier build.  Sign me up as a spectator, sounds like a really nice project!

 

Cheers!

Regards,

T

 

In Flanders fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place, and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

~John McCrae

TRM
  • Member since
    May 2010
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by TRM on Friday, December 31, 2010 4:32 PM

Almost there...

Shaved off molded light hood, drill out light and replaced hood with a piece of PE scrap

 

Added handles, pedals.....

 

the wire will end up being the wipers' vacuum line

 

Brackets for the removable hood

 

Flipped the back seat in it's upright position, added some ribbing and a tire pump and the hinge bar for the seat

I need to investigate correct coloring, but may try to prime soon...

 

Cheers!

Regards,

T

 

In Flanders fields the poppies grow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place, and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

~John McCrae

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