SEARCH FINESCALE.COM

Enter keywords or a search phrase below:

Best way to creating sand dunes?

6169 views
16 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    August, 2011
Best way to creating sand dunes?
Posted by RatPatrol on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:01 AM

Hey folks...I recently picked up the DVDs of Rat Patrol. This show was a childhood favorite of mine! It got me thinking about doing a diorama of the opening sequence where the Jeeps are jumping the sand dunes. 

So...my question is...anyone have any suggestions for creating realistic 1/35th scale sand dunes?

Thanks in advance!

 

Mike

  • Member since
    August, 2006
  • From: Neenah, WI
Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:15 AM

Create a base from styrofoam (pink or blue). Once you have the shape you want, apply some adhesive and glue on some sand.

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

http://hawkeyes-squawkbox.com/

 

 

"Its not the workbench that makes the model, it is the modeler at the workbench."

  • Member since
    August, 2011
Posted by RatPatrol on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:42 AM

That sounds pretty simple! How would you create tire tracks? Could you press them into the foam?

  • Member since
    June, 2008
  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:50 PM

Carve the tracks into the foam...

  Making your terrain features outta styrofoam is probably the best way, IMHO...  Simply "mounding" another material, like celluclay or plaster, will work but means it'll be heavy and take forever to dry...   

But regular sand (like what you use for concrete-mixing or the kid's sandbox) is way outta scale... In 1/35th, it'd be like driving over a desert covered with four-inch wide rocks...

I'd recommend using aquarium sand...

  • Member since
    August, 2011
Posted by RatPatrol on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:42 AM

Great tips...thanks! Would you seal the sand with something after application?

  • Member since
    June, 2008
  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 10:09 AM

You can if it makes you feel more secure about it, but I never do..

I spray it with a mixture of water, white glue, and a few drops of dish-washing detergent (About 60-40 glue/water and DON'T shake it to mix) in order to ensure that no wayward grains are going to come off during final assembly, but a clear flat would do the same, I guess...

Also, I add straight-pins to the wheels (especially if you're gonna have any wheels off the ground, since there's a lot of stress on the joint otherwise), feet, and any walls and push them down into the diorama base deep enough to hit the foam to secure the vehicles/ figures/structures...

 

  • Member since
    August, 2011
Posted by RatPatrol on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 12:52 PM

Sounds great! 

Here's another question...

Would it be possible to create a little dust cloud off the wheels similar to the photo here? I was thinking about using cotton...but I don't know if that would work.

  • Member since
    January, 2003
  • From: Washington, DC
Posted by TomZ2 on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 10:38 PM

Aerogel?

It’s [dinkywongo] expensive, but
it’s the lightest material on earth.

Occasional factual, grammatical, or spelling variations are inherent to this thesis and should not be considered as defects, as they enhance the individuality and character of this document.

  • Member since
    January, 2009
  • From: Central CA
Posted by Division 6 on Friday, August 12, 2011 8:31 AM

They have really fine grade sand at Micheal's in the area with all the rocks and floral accessories.

  • Member since
    August, 2011
Posted by RatPatrol on Friday, August 12, 2011 9:51 AM

That Aerogel looks interesting. I'm sure it's way out of the price range.

  • Member since
    June, 2008
  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, August 12, 2011 10:25 AM

RatPatrol

Sounds great! 

Here's another question...

Would it be possible to create a little dust cloud off the wheels similar to the photo here? I was thinking about using cotton...but I don't know if that would work.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/2700190988_f9a09daba1.jpg

With very few exceptions (like when it's used for rocket/missile exhaust plumes or a lazy smoke-curl from a cooking-fire), cotton just looks like cotton on a diorama...  The best way to re-create vehicle dust on a diorama is to use smoke during the photography... 

You can try it though...  I've just nver had any luck with it...

  • Member since
    January, 2003
  • From: Washington, DC
Posted by TomZ2 on Friday, August 12, 2011 11:15 AM

RatPatrol

That Aerogel looks interesting. I'm sure it's way out of the price range.

Eventually I expect Edmund Scientific, et al., will have Aerogel for lower than Unobtainium prices, but $325.00 for 2 x 1.75 x 1.25 inches!

Occasional factual, grammatical, or spelling variations are inherent to this thesis and should not be considered as defects, as they enhance the individuality and character of this document.

  • Member since
    August, 2006
  • From: Arkansas
Posted by K-dawg on Friday, August 12, 2011 11:19 AM

If you can get your hands on the AFV Modeller magazine issue 58, it has an article from Volker Bembennek to where he creates an amazing windblown desert. The description is fairly short but the pictures are worth a thousand words so they say. He sculpted the wavy windblown surface from plaster and then covered it with sand and dirt.

"Gott ist mit Y'all!!!"
  • Member since
    January, 2003
  • From: Washington, DC
Posted by TomZ2 on Friday, August 12, 2011 12:01 PM

K-dawg

If you can get your hands on the AFV Modeller magazine issue 58, it has an article from Volker Bembennek to where he creates an amazing windblown desert. The description is fairly short but the pictures are worth a thousand words so they say. He sculpted the wavy windblown surface from plaster and then covered it with sand and dirt.

http://shop.afvmodeller.com/customer/product.php?productid=18023&cat=422&page=1

The Desert Hulk - 1:35th Scale Bishop #18023
 
The Desert Hulk - 1:35th Scale Bishop  The Desert Hulk
Volker Bembennek describes how he built his impressive 1:35 Bishop

Details
 
Manufacturer AFV Modeller Ltd
Price: £ 1.00

Options
 
Quantity 1 (this product is downloadable)

Occasional factual, grammatical, or spelling variations are inherent to this thesis and should not be considered as defects, as they enhance the individuality and character of this document.

  • Member since
    November, 2003
  • From: chicopee,mass
Posted by rudedog on Monday, July 30, 2012 4:58 PM

Great tip on the aquarium sand, Hans. I was shocked how fine it is [ they even have differant grades].Not to mention the price, 16.99 for a 25# bag .I don't think you'd ever run out no matter how many desert or beach Dio's you'd do. Again, it's so fine, I wouldn't be surprised if it came from the Namib desert !.Now if I could find artificial snow that fine. Thanks, keith r.

"...That's an order,not a debate topic , Sergeant Rudzik..."

  • Member since
    February, 2007
Posted by mitsdude on Tuesday, July 31, 2012 12:07 AM

I've heard Chinchilla "Bath Dust" works well as small scale sand

  • Member since
    April, 2012
Posted by Reserve on Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:51 PM

Chinchilla blue dust does work, and it works well. The styrofoam idea is a good one. As far as tire tracks go, a bit of celluclay laid on the vehicle's path will give you something to put impressions in without the need for carving. I'd do a bit of extra white glue in the mix for this.

Regards,

Mark

JOIN OUR COMMUNITY!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

SUBSCRIBER-ONLY CONTENT
FREE NEWSLETTER

Loading...