My recent dio's have been pretty simple affairs when it comes to bases. The one with most in it was the Pz III dio with the classical ruins. But when I get to doing some more complicated bases with buildings and such, I plan on running two threads. One in armour just for the vehicle and one here with a little on the vehicle but concentrating on the base.

But generally speaking I find it better to put things in the respective forums such as aircraft or armour.

Thanks Bish,

I will keep it in mind on the posts and cross posts.

Gamera

Hey Nomad, looks good- I too like this version better than the older one.

And sorry I missed the post, this section gets somewhat less traffic so I don't check here as often as I do some of the more busy forums.

No, it doesn't get a lot of traffic in here. That's why I do WiP threads in the relevant section rather than here, even though the end result is a dio. And I always cross post completed builds in here as well. It does tend to get over looked.

Nomad, no problem in using the nameplate idea. That looks a lot better. Now a scene like this doesn't need a vehicle to bulk it out.

Gamera

Hey Nomad, looks good- I too like this version better than the older one.

And sorry I missed the post, this section gets somewhat less traffic so I don't check here as often as I do some of the more busy forums.

No problem. I just thought I did something. I understand that with all the building and such that somethings get over looked. I am probably as busy as most of your are. I sit at home all day and have nothing better to do but work on dios or models when I have them and sit here on this darn laptop.(LOL)

Thanks,

Doug

Bish

Ye, we seem to have missed this one. Is this a new base or the old one redone. Even though I am not a big fan or following the GB rules, the angle's do look a lot better in this one. Are you going to add some rubble or a bit of a building on the front right corner. And the small bit of path on the other corner suggests more in the part, which is good.

I understand. Well to answer your question Bish Is yes this is a new base. I took your idea of the plaque and used it here. (Hope you don't mind.)

Here are the photos. I renamed it to "House to House Berlin 1944."

Doug

Hey Nomad, looks good- I too like this version better than the older one.

And sorry I missed the post, this section gets somewhat less traffic so I don't check here as often as I do some of the more busy forums.

Ye, we seem to have missed this one. Is this a new base or the old one redone. Even though I am not a big fan or following the GB rules, the angle's do look a lot better in this one. Are you going to add some rubble or a bit of a building on the front right corner. And the small bit of path on the other corner suggests more in the part, which is good.

Thanks for answering Pawel

I just thought I had said something wrong. Since I have gotten back into modeling I am having to learn the right way to do things. I used to just build without doing research and all. That is a habit that I need to get out of. The street is probably not right for the time period or location.

I guess I was so eager to build this dio that I just went at it with no thought about making sure the items were era specific. That is something that I need to really work on. It is not like I do not have the time to do research because I am home all the time.

Thanks again for answering. You have a great day yourself.

Doug

Howdy!

I think somehow your regular readers missed it. Happens all the time... I like the new version - those angles really make it more interesting. One thing to consider would be this: what kind of road paving do we have here? Is it right for the period and place? Did you get any photos to back you up? It's always a good thing to do.

Good luck with your projects and have a nice day

Paweł

What happened???? Did I do something wrong? I was really liking the comments and help.

Here is a smaller version. Less clutter. Still in the starting stage.

You know the more that I look at the dio I do not like it. It is way to big and for the subject matter It looks to busy. Six figures may be to much for this one.

Also after looking at the angles you all are right. It just does not fit. I may just use some of the things that I have made and build a smaller dio.

Tell me what you think.

Thanks,

Doug

Thank you for the kind words.

Doug

Looking good...

Tiking

Love the updates. Well done.

Thank you very much for the kind words.

Doug

Gamera

Looks good!!!

If I may nitpick you might paint the sidewalk or the road a little darker or lighter than the so they'll stand apart a little more, that's my two cents though, use it or toss it- your choice!

Gamera,

You can nitpick all you want to. That is the only way I can get better. See if the photos are what you mean.

The base is no way complete. I still have to get the wall sections painted and add more debris. _Please let me know any pointers and tips to complete this dio.

Thanks in advance.

Doug

Looks good!!!

If I may nitpick you might paint the sidewalk or the road a little darker or lighter than the so they'll stand apart a little more, that's my two cents though, use it or toss it- your choice!

BlackSheepTwoOneFour

You know,  you could add something like a damaged Panzer II, German Halftrack or even a German artillery of sorts  amid a pile of rubble to the diorama. Just a thought....

Yes I could add some armor or a cannon but at this time I have none to put with it. It may come late.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Here are some update photos of the base.

This one is one sidewalk complete.

This one not finished.

Gamera

Nomad: A lot of what Bish and the other guys are referring to about not building everything symmetrical comes from Shep Paine's 'How to Build Dioramas' - it's from the early '80s and a little out of date on somethings but still it's an invaluable reference for dioramas and a bunch of other modeling related stuff. It seems to be out of print at Amazon but a used copy should be fine or just buy it elsewhere. It's from the same company as FSM so you might be able to pick it up here. In any case it's well worth the money spent.

Doug

You know,  you could add something like a damaged Panzer II, German Halftrack or even a German artillery of sorts  amid a pile of rubble to the diorama. Just a thought....

I finally got a copy of that book last year, after 20 + years of building dio's. I think I had learnt by looking at others and trial and error. While it is old, it is certainly worth a read and I think there are some things which will always be relevant and others that are open to opinion.

SHEPPARD PAINE DIORAMA BOOK

Nomad: A lot of what Bish and the other guys are referring to about not building everything symmetrical comes from Shep Paine's 'How to Build Dioramas' - it's from the early '80s and a little out of date on somethings but still it's an invaluable reference for dioramas and a bunch of other modeling related stuff. It seems to be out of print at Amazon but a used copy should be fine or just buy it elsewhere. It's from the same company as FSM so you might be able to pick it up here. In any case it's well worth the money spent.

waynec

i'm going to throw my 2 cents in here for what it's worth. first off city fight is brutal. i did some training in berlin and a cat would have to be lucky to survive.

i like cutting the one corner off but, like bish, i am not locked into rules and i tend to be symmetrical, especially since i am a technical illustrator by trade. i think the prone MG team needs some rubble in front for protection. and i n would block the door to the left of the tripod team because they ain't leaving that way.

this set up is like the depuy (USA general) foxhole concept. it works great until a position is breached, then it all goes to crap.

Hey Waynec,

 Thanks for the comment. You are right on the prone MG needs rubble in front. That is what I plan to do. Now that I know the rule I will try to follow it when I can. This dio has been a real brain teaser for me on what to do with the colors. I guess I need to just get the airbrush out and see what happens.

Doug

i'm going to throw my 2 cents in here for what it's worth. first off city fight is brutal. i did some training in berlin and a cat would have to be lucky to survive.

i like cutting the one corner off but, like bish, i am not locked into rules and i tend to be symmetrical, especially since i am a technical illustrator by trade. i think the prone MG team needs some rubble in front for protection. and i n would block the door to the left of the tripod team because they ain't leaving that way.

this set up is like the depuy (USA general) foxhole concept. it works great until a position is breached, then it all goes to crap.

Hey Pawel,

Thank you for the comment and observation. Yes you see it right. The idea came to me from the movie Saving Private Ryan. It i the scene in where the two GIs were setting up the 30cal machine gun in the upper room of the shop. They were firing thru a hole in the wall at the on coming Germans. There will be plenty of debris all around them from the bombed out buildings..

This dio is only in the starting stages and may be subject to change at any time.

Thanks again for the comments. Feel free to leave more if you want.

You have a wonderful day also.

Doug

Hello!

I'm not a soldier, but I'm afraid the location for the machine gun might not be a good one - do I see it right, that they only have the hole in the wall to fire through?

Good luck with your dio and have a nice day!

Paweł

You could do, but I did that once on a base and I thought it looked a bit odd. I would not worry to much, I just wanted to point it out to you. As I say, I don't always follow those rules, but some treat them as the word of god.