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  • Member since
    November 2005
Help with building base for diorama
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:29 PM
Hey, im kind of new to the forums, and kind of new to serious modelling in general. I have an okay experience with models but i am looking to get a lot better, ok to the point.

I am looking to build a base for my newly built T-34/85, which i am weathering tomorrow or saturday. I dont know how to build a base for the diorama and i would be very greatful for some help. I am looking to build a diorama around the time of Minsk. Not a complex diorama but a small one for just a T-34 and maybe a PzKw IV [i think im gonna put the IV in a different one though]

Anyone mind helping a lost soul?

Thanks a bunch
-Lawler
  • Member since
    July 2003
  • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
Posted by lizardqing on Friday, April 16, 2004 12:10 AM
Welcome to the forum Lawler, Personally for the base I like to use the wood plaques that you can get at wal-mart, hobby lobby or any craft store. Then because I have limited space I just mold the ground work out of sculptey to the terrain shape I want and then bake it. Covering it is done with what ever look I am trying to get. Sand,static grass, dirt and what not. Alot of builders use celeu clay which I admit looks like it works better but I have not gotten to that level with scenery to try it yet.
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: Sunny Florida
Posted by renarts on Friday, April 16, 2004 6:35 PM
Word of advice Lawler....don't think, knowWink [;)]...... what you want to do for your diorama. It will save you alot of work in the long run. If you have a preconceived idea of how you want to display your vehicle, it will make the base building a more pleasurable experience, allowing you to work towards a goal rather than an experiment.

If you have a plan, then you can formulate the steps to get you to your end result.

Sketch your ideas out or have them in mind when you begin. This will tell you how big your base is going to be. What materials you'll need and then where to start. In short. What are you trying to say? Are you looking for a simple display of your vehicle, using the base as a sort of frame and just enough ground work to put it in a setting, or are you making a "photograph or snapshot" of a moment in time (or imagination)?

Once you figure what size base you'll need you can look into things like
- Do I need to cut my base to size?
- Can I use something already made? (tile, pre fab base, picture frame, tree branch, etc.)
-Will I have to build up my base?
-Can I leave it flat?

What environment is your vehicle going to be in? If its winter then you have the varying conditions that are associated with it. Deep snow, no snow, some snow. With snow you don't have to worry about things like grass etc. Or you can make mud (ahhhh spring in Russia... the mud, the rain, the partisans) still no grass just lots of mud.
You get my drift.

Your ground can be somethig as simple as a road, piece of grass, section of field, ditch, cliff face, whatever. You can start by doing simple contours with sculpey, celuclay, plaster, wood, dependent on your subject.

Big contours can be made with foam or wood to build up elevations and then covered with spackle, acrylic medium, plaster, celuclay what ever, and then painted with the colors appropriate to your choice of ground and then covered with the ground detrius (leaves, grass, mud, sand, dirt, pebbles.

Washes of white glue are good for setting dirt or sand in place or sprinkle this stuff in to the wet plaster etc. before it dries. At the same time you can add things like logs, big rocks, rubble, trees, tall grass (made from cisal rope or hemp rope) or apply commercial products like static grass.

Mind you the fun in all of this is figuring ways to make this stuff look like what you intend. Everyone has their recipes for ground materials, snow, ice, etc.

Whatever wood you use, make sure it is painted and/or sealed before you get started or it will come back to bite you later. Some guys build on a sheet of acrylic and then mount this to the base. Water (from the celuclay or plaster or modeling paste) doesn't effect it like it would wood or mdf and saves your base from uneccessary handling or damage while you are working on the ground material or building up the "setting".

I highly reccomend Shep Paines book on building dioramas. It is very helpful and chock full of ideas and hints to get you going into making top notch vignettes and dioramas.

Good luck with this and dive in. The fun is in the journey.

Mike
Mike "Imagination is the dye that colors our lives" Marcus Aurellius A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 16, 2004 11:14 PM
thanks alot, ill get back to you when i start building the base [i love being a procrastinator] thanks a bunch

-lawler
  • Member since
    December 2002
Posted by Abastyr on Saturday, April 17, 2004 4:06 PM
Lawler. Send me an e-mail if you wouldn't mind. abastyr1234@yahoo.com I used to know somebody that used the name "lawler" for their user name on other forums, as well as some online games, I'm curious if that is you. If not, odd coincidence.

Thanks,

abastyr
  • Member since
    October 2003
  • From: Clovis, Calif
Posted by rebelreenactor on Saturday, April 17, 2004 4:20 PM
Renarts, I think i have to say that that is the longest post i have ever read. LOL
John
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