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First Diorama
Posted by Dohrmc on Saturday, November 12, 2022 3:00 PM

This may be a dumb question, but I am attempting my first diorama.  It will have a Brit Matilda tank on a small stretch of desert.

Do folks glue the tank to the diorama?  Or just set it on the diorama?  I can see advantages and disadvantages to both.

I was just curious as to what most modelers do.

Thanks in advance!

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Saturday, November 12, 2022 6:01 PM

Hello!

Folks mostly glue everything in place. To make sure everything stays put it's not uncommon, especially in case of figures, to drill a hole poth in "the ground" and the leg of the fig (or a wheel of the vehicle) and use a short length of wire in both holes to glue them together.

In your case you could make the ground a little uneven and show off how the suspension articulates. Also, please don't forget to show the vehicle tracks in the ground, so that it's clear it didn't teleport to the spot it's now in.

And - you didn't ask how to make sand in scale - do you have that worked out? If you just glue regular sand to the surface it will look to coarse in scale... Exactly, scale - what do you have in mind - 1:72, 1:35 or something else?

Good luck with your diorama and have a nice day!

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Saturday, November 12, 2022 7:44 PM

I did a city scene,my JS-2 had metal tracks,it had some heft to it,so I just placed it on the cobblestone street,I did glue all the figures to the base though,once it's on the shelf it's not moving.

But yes,for the ground schemes gluing probably works best,as was mentioned tanks don't sit on the dirt or sand,more like in it.

 

Post pics later.

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Posted by Dohrmc on Saturday, November 12, 2022 8:42 PM

It is 1/35 Scale, the old Tamiya Matilda, assembled and painted a very long time ago.  
all I have done is attempt to weather it.

I have sand from Ace hardware, color is great, but is probably is too coarse for the scale. 
I will find some finer sand and just paint it If it's not the color I want.

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, November 13, 2022 1:05 PM

Dohrmc
from Ace hardware

Getting "Grout Mix" at Ace can be a better deal, as its much, much finer grained.  Which is what Pawel was speaking of.

You can get colored grout, too--and starting from a sandy color will help a bit.

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, November 13, 2022 4:07 PM

Post pics.

The desert in North Africa where the battles were fought is not the same as the Sahara.

It's flat, and the ground is a mixture of sand, dirt and a lot of small rocks scattered all over.

The color of the ground is varied of course, but is a light tan and has brown and orange tones.

 

It is really helpful to have photos to refer to. Finding one in color with a Matilda in it would be hard, but contemporary photos will be fine.

There are quite a few good ones from around the seige of Tobruk.

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Dohrmc on Sunday, November 13, 2022 6:06 PM

https://flic.kr/p/2nZ4oty

 

waiting for the base to dry

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Posted by Dohrmc on Sunday, November 13, 2022 7:20 PM

How long should I wait to let this DAS clay dry before painting the base?  I rolled it to about 1/4" before I applied it to the foundation, which is pink foam, with balsa sides.

I am guessing at least 24 hours, unless painting prior to drying will do no harm.

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Sunday, November 13, 2022 7:27 PM

Hello!

So that's the base Dohrmc was trying to show us:

Base

And I believe that's the tank:

Tank

I like the base a lot, and the tank too - one thing for future builds: if you invested some time in removing the mold lines from parts it would improve your build a lot!

You might also consider embedding your diorama base in a picture frame - they are pretty cheap and make great diorama edges.

Good luck with your build and have a nice day!

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by Dohrmc on Sunday, November 13, 2022 10:49 PM

Thank you! My vision is not as good as it used to be- I missed those mold lines you mentioned! Although, when I built this thing, I was much younger! Lesson learned!

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Monday, November 14, 2022 3:34 AM

Those dang high quality photos bring out every little *&% to bother good modellers later, I can tell you that...

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by Dohrmc on Tuesday, November 15, 2022 12:51 PM

Initial painting of the base

 DEE9A430-4487-4696-AE4E-15CC05CFA481 by DOHRMAN CRAWFORD, on Flickr

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Posted by Dohrmc on Tuesday, November 15, 2022 6:23 PM

almost done, some more details to add.

 428AA040-C2F5-4065-915A-CB5C8D88BEE3 by DOHRMAN CRAWFORD, on Flickr

please forgive terrible lighting

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Posted by Dohrmc on Tuesday, November 15, 2022 6:29 PM

Stuck tank on to see how it looks, overall, i see a lot of mistakes, but I'm pretty happy with it.

 A1FD80F7-0729-43FB-A0AE-F2A11FE9D499 by DOHRMAN CRAWFORD, on Flickr

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, November 15, 2022 7:09 PM

Great!

 

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, November 15, 2022 7:34 PM

That looks great my friend!

Thanks,

John

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  • From: From the Mit, but live in Mason, O high ho
Posted by hogfanfs on Wednesday, November 16, 2022 2:13 PM

Wow! Awesome job. The base looks fantastic!

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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Posted by Dohrmc on Wednesday, November 16, 2022 9:29 PM

Thank you all for the kind comments!

 C79E0631-927C-4E60-B63E-359E85018948 by DOHRMAN CRAWFORD, on Flickr

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Posted by Dohrmc on Wednesday, November 16, 2022 9:32 PM

I'm happy with the way it turned out!

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Thursday, November 17, 2022 5:44 AM

Like Tom Jones once said, it's not unusual to be happy with a dio lookin' this good! Thanks for sharing and have a nice day!

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by lurch on Thursday, November 17, 2022 8:50 AM

That looks great to me. Grreat color tone on the sand. The tank looks grea also.

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, November 17, 2022 2:24 PM

Shep would run a rubber hose under the base and daylight it behind the tank, then blow cigar smoke through it to look like dust!

 

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by JoeSMG on Thursday, November 17, 2022 9:31 PM

Love the look of this diorama, very realistic and artistically done.

- Joe the SMG

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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Friday, November 18, 2022 1:09 PM

"You're pretty Happy With It"

       That really sums up modeling doesn't it? I think you probably felt the same sense of success as I did with my first Luftwaffe Pilot figure! That Is What Counts! That's why I like the fact I.P.M.S. has a "Display Only " table!

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Posted by Dohrmc on Friday, November 18, 2022 5:51 PM

Thank you all very much! Very kind of you!

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Posted by Anton on Friday, January 13, 2023 5:09 PM

That's a very nice diorama. Very much like the differences in ground textures and rocks.

Regarding the gluing down or not. I don't glue them down so I can always make adjustments. Want best of both worlds: Use magnets. If you can hide them between or under the tracks. Some neodymium magnets will keep things in place while you can remove the model if need be.

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