1/72 Scale AA weapons

Thanks Phil!
I have checked out tracks-n-troops they seem to have everything I would ever need for my current project, if I can't get what I want from my normal venders I will give them a try.

Matrixone

The quad is 4x20mm and one of the most feared weapons of ground attack aircraft .
As for other guns in this scale, there are a bunch. Try this link to a store in Belgium which has a great rep for service http://www.tracks-n-troops.com/1-72%20Armor.htm
You can also go to http://www.ontheway.us/kitlists/manufacturers.htm Besides guns, there are lots of aircraft support vehicles and figure sets. If you can't find what you what at either of these sites, it doesn't exist.

Thanks a lot for the photos and information Duke Maddog!
My questions might be boring to you experts out there, but your answers have been very helpful to someone like myself who is ignorant concerning German armor and weapons but has an interest in the subject.
That Opel Blitz truck looks great, can't wait to build mine!
Today there was some good/bad news for me; I have to work 10 hours overtime this week which means more money, but less time for modeling!
Somewhere in this forum I posted a couple new pics if you are interested.

Matrixone

QUOTE: Originally posted by Tiger44 Duke Maddog Thanks for setting the record straight on the calibre of the quad, what can I say, if it isn't an 88 I'm lost.

No problem! Always glad to help!

Duke Maddog Thanks for setting the record straight on the calibre of the quad, what can I say, if it isn't an 88 I'm lost.

QUOTE: Originally posted by wrbridge Thanks for the picture of the Opel, Duke. Looks like a good kit indeed, I'll have to look into picking up a couple.

You're welcome wrbridge. They are fun and easy kits to put together. Good fit overall. Have fun!

Thanks for the picture of the Opel, Duke. Looks like a good kit indeed, I'll have to look into picking up a couple.

Matrixone, as promised, here are my photos!

There are pics of most of my German AA Artillery in 1/72 scale. Each of these kits was put out by Esci/Ertl, and most, if not all are still being released by Italeri I believe. All these models you see here are more that 20 years old so they may not appear as quality builds.

I'll start with my Quad Flak 38 which was part of Esci's 1/72 scale German Artillery set:



Here are two pics of my German Sdkfz 7/2 sporting the Quad 38 in the first pic, then the single Flak 38 in the second pic:





Last of all is my German Wirblewind:



I haven't started my Ostwind yet, but when I do, it will be able to be seen in one of my 'Factory' Threads!


And for you wrbridge, here is a pic of one of my Opel Blitz trucks. It hasn't been detailed with a wash and dry-brush yet, but you can see how it builds into a nice little kit:



If I can find anymore models to shoot for you, I'll post them here so you can see them. Still, with my post and t3488's post, you have a pretty good cross-section of German WWII Anti Aircraft Artillery!

QUOTE: Originally posted by matrixone wrbridge, Hope I helped you, in this forum I am the student not a teacher. I have learned so much the last few weeks by reading the contents in this forum, I mainly build airplanes and there is much I want to learn about dioramas/armor. This forum is very helpful to new guys like myself. I just want to say thank you to all who have given me advice on helping me with my photography base/diorama project. Matrixone

hehe...no worries Matixone. No matter how long any of us have been doing this there is always something new to learn, we're all students, just some of us have taken more classes

Warren

Actually, the Ostwind looks like a Wirblewind, only with single 38mm gun instead of the quad-38's.

Also, I forgot to mention that the Wirblewind and Ostwind both were painted with the dark Yellow under Green/Brown camo pattern.

I should have pics up later today.

Thank you very much for the useful information t3488g and Duke Maddog,

I know what a Wirblewind looks like but have no idea what the Ostwind looks like.
If you could post some pictures of your models that would great, I am looking forward to seeing them.
It sounds like I could use them after all, my airfield would would be defenseless otherwise. They should make my pictures more interesting when I am able to add them to my photobase.

Matrixone

QUOTE: Originally posted by matrixone Tiger 44, Later today or tomorrow I plan on posting a couple pictures of what I have been working on so you can see what my needs are for the light AA weapons I have been asking about. As for the Wirbelwind kit, the easier it is to build the better, I am a complete novice when it comes to armor models. At this time what I need is something simple and quick to build so I can get to what I do best, painting. Hope the Wirbelwind has the dark yellow and green/brown camo. Matrixone

Hi Matrixone! I think I can help out a bit. Some research I've done indicates that the Germans ringed their outer airfield perimeters with Flak 88's to go after the high-altitude bombers flying over. They then mounted flak 38's and quad 38's inside sandbag emplacements around the inner perimeter and alongside the runways, and intersperced them with 20mm cannon and MG42 nests. These were designed to make it hot for the Jugs and Lightnings that came down on the deck to strafe parked aircraft and buildings.

It was not uncommon to see truck-mounted Flak 38's and Wirblewinds parked at German airfields in the later War years(1944-45). Once the Allies started rocketing the emplacements to open a hole for strafers, the Germans saw the wisdom of having mobile guns around their airfields, and Goering appealed to his buddy Hitler to let him have some of the Wehrmacht's Wirblewinds and Ostwinds to defend his bases.

Italeri makes an Artillery kit with Pak 36's, Pak 40's, Flak 38-4's, and moaning minis. They also make the above-mentioned truck-mounted weapons and the Wirblewind and Ostwind. I've built all but the Ostwind, and I'll try to get pics posted so you can see them. Theya re easy and well-fitting kits all around, I enjoyed building them.

I hope this helps.

have you tried here:
http://www.72scale.com/arm/armWWIIGer.htm

Tiger 44,
Later today or tomorrow I plan on posting a couple pictures of what I have been working on so you can see what my needs are for the light AA weapons I have been asking about.
As for the Wirbelwind kit, the easier it is to build the better, I am a complete novice when it comes to armor models. At this time what I need is something simple and quick to build so I can get to what I do best, painting. Hope the Wirbelwind has the dark yellow and green/brown camo.

Matrixone

It was a fun kit to build,I do not recall having any fit problems, glad I could be of some help to you. Mike

Thank you Tiger 44,

I will probably order one of those Wirbelwind kits when I order the flak 38.
It was fun making some of those ground vehicles for my photobase and even if I don't use the Wirbelwind in my photo/dioramas it sounds like a fun kit to make anyway, I'm sure I will find a way to use it.

Matrixone

I don't know if any were used for airfield defence but Hasegawa made a Wirbelwind a couple of years back. It's a 20mm Quad mounted on a panzer4 chasis with an open turret. It was a pretty easy build and the quad 20 is a little jewel. The kit # is MT48:800 If they didn't use the Wirbelwind for airfield defence you could probably mount the 20mm on one of them Opel trucks.

t3488g,

Thanks for the picture of the flak 38, what kit and scale is it? It helps somewhat to see what I plan on building!
I live in an area where the nearest hobby shop is a two hour drive away so most of my hobby supplies are from mail order businesses so it really helps me out when I can get good advice from the forum. There are no other modelers in my area or model clubs that I know of that I can get advice on simple matters such as my question about the German AA weapons. Those who live in areas where there are hobby shops and/or clubs are very lucky.

Matrixone

QUOTE: Originally posted by matrixone wrbridge, Hope I helped you, in this forum I am the student not a teacher. I have learned so much the last few weeks by reading the contents in this forum, I mainly build airplanes and there is much I want to learn about dioramas/armor. This forum is very helpful to new guys like myself. I just want to say thank you to all who have given me advice on helping me with my photography base/diorama project. Matrixone

this has got to be the best information site for modeleres on the internet

flak 38:

wrbridge,

Hope I helped you, in this forum I am the student not a teacher. I have learned so much the last few weeks by reading the contents in this forum, I mainly build airplanes and there is much I want to learn about dioramas/armor. This forum is very helpful to new guys like myself.

I just want to say thank you to all who have given me advice on helping me with my photography base/diorama project.

Matrixone

Cool, thanks for the heads up Matrixone. I look forward to seeing some pictures of what you're working on. Good luck.

wrbridge,
I have not yet started on the Italeri Opel Blitz truck but I have had a chance to look over the kits contents. It looks very good to me and well worth the money. The quality looks as good as the Academy ground vehicle set I just finished a week ago.

t3488g,
Thank you very much for the information about the two different sizes on AA weapons, I was well aware of the 88, but was unsure of the smaller flak 38.

If things go well tomorrow I should post some new pics of my photo/diorama.

Matrixone

2 types of german flack guns that i know of are the 88mm (not sure of name) and the flack 38 (not sure of calaber)

airfix makes an 88 that comes with a famo and a kubulawagen i think

you can have an ostwind
http://www.militaryhobbies.ca/product.cfm?ProductID=862

no airfix on that site, but most lhs have alot of airfix products

Matrixone,
I've been looking at picking up one of those Italerti Opel trucks myself, how does the kit quality look?

Thank you scubaboy,

I now have two of the Italeri Opel trucks now I hope I don't have to get another!
But if thats what it takes to further improve my ''art'' then so be it!
Thanks for the info.

Matrixone

check this place out
www.milicast.com
or
www.tracks-n-troops.com
I think I've told you about these before. I think Italeri has a flatbed truck with a flack 38 on it, maybe you could just jet rid of the truck. Revell does too.
http://www.tracks-n-troops.com/italeri.htm
this is from the second websight. Look at the last listing

Thanks rebelreenactor,

I need 1/72 scale AA weapons, I have a few catalogs that have some 1/72 armor listed but I don't know which are weapons that will work for my purposes. I build mostly aircraft and don't know the different proper German names of those AA guns.

Matrixone

What scale? If it is 1/72 Go here,
http://www.squadron.com/SearchResults.asp?ScaleList=72&TypeList=everything&ManuList=everything&Key=20mm&Submit=Go

1/48 go here-
http://www.squadron.com/SearchResults.asp?ScaleList=48&TypeList=everything&ManuList=everything&Key=20mm&Submit=Go

Sorry i wasn't able to find much 1/48 stuff.
hope this helps a little