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Good material for simulating dirt/grass?
Posted by knight667 on Thursday, October 21, 2004 4:42 PM
I'm getting my wife a curio case for her birthday (which was actually Monday but she gets the curio on Saturday...she has no idea, and she's been wanting one forever) so I'll be "inheriting" the display case that her miniatures and figurines have been in. It's a very old case, about 30 years old. Two wooden shelves, glass doors, fluorescent lighting.

My question is this: I'm wanting to display my armor in their, but would like to have some sort of material for the AFV to sit on, instead of just the boring laminated pressboard shelves. I thought at one point I saw a roll of "grass" that train modelers used, but I don't know if that's made anymore.

If anyone has any suggestions, they would be most appreciated! Thanks!
John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 21, 2004 5:27 PM
Don't use that roll-grass junk!

I'd check out a good model RR scenery book at the hobby mart. There are all kinds of methods out there, static grass and fake fur can really do a good job. There's a new a product from Germany I think (Silflor?) I've been meaning to try, from the pix I've seen, it looks like the heat.

For bare dirt I like to use a thin layer of Durham's Water Putty with dry DWP sifted onto the top while the first layer is still wet, paint it up and you're GTG.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 21, 2004 5:28 PM
Oh yeah, and like Shep Paine said, dirt makes really good dirt.
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Posted by knight667 on Thursday, October 21, 2004 5:33 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tangoromeo

Don't use that roll-grass junk!

I'd check out a good model RR scenery book at the hobby mart. There are all kinds of methods out there, static grass and fake fur can really do a good job. There's a new a product from Germany I think (Silflor?) I've been meaning to try, from the pix I've seen, it looks like the heat.

For bare dirt I like to use a thin layer of Durham's Water Putty with dry DWP sifted onto the top while the first layer is still wet, paint it up and you're GTG.


My LHS has a ton of train stuff, so maybe next time I'm there I'll look for it. Yeah, real dirt makes great dirt...something to think about anyway. What'd be cool is if I could do different contours in the case. It might look a little strange, since I'll have 2 shelves of armor from all over the world in one place and very close to each other...still, might be neat. I'm planning on throwing some figures in for scale...it's hard to get perspective just looking at pieces of armor sitting next to each other.
John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest
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Posted by rebelreenactor on Thursday, October 21, 2004 6:32 PM
Some celluclay mixed with some brown acrylic craft paint ans some kitty litter or rail raod balast will make nice dirt. For grass I use woodland scenics grass, it works great.
John
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Posted by gringe88 on Thursday, October 21, 2004 7:09 PM
keep in mind the stress load of the shelves. and the fact that just applying a layer of dirt or celluclay groundwork, will break down over time, and create quite a mess. individual bases would probably work better. but if you dont like that option, the fur idea sounds best to me. actually, coem to tink of it, you could make a simple sheet with the groundwrok on it. you could make it from thin wood, or make it the shelf itself. then use regular groundwrok techniques to complete it. makesure though that you have a good support structure for each shelf. there'll be a bit of added weight with the gorundowrk
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Posted by garyallum on Sunday, October 24, 2004 7:17 PM
Hi all If your going to display various armour subjects on one shelf why not go for a museum theme. If you want two or even three different levels on one shelf why not make an insert that will sit on the originals using polystyreme for the levels (low weight conciderations) and dress with an appropiate model railway scenic dressing (flocking powder is ok for grass) or my method of choice is to use dry sand stuck on with a water soluble glue painted with a suitable earth colour/s and dry brushed with grass colour.
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Posted by clfesmire on Thursday, October 28, 2004 4:03 PM
I don't know what scale you are in but with small scale (1/87, 1/72) felt found at craft/hobby stores makes a nice base and can be had in a variety of colors. Easy to attach, no mess, no breakdown and fairly cheap.
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Posted by ajlafleche on Friday, October 29, 2004 11:25 AM
Beat me to the felt! However, another option is to go to a fabric store. Figure guys like using velvet or satin on displays. For my western theme, I use a piece of faux buckskin I picked up as a remnant at the local Joanne's Fabric. At a yard sale, I found a placemat and coasters knit in an Indian like pattern to dress this up further. When I enterred a collection of ACW Texans at the VA Beach Nationals in 2002, they were displayed on grey fabric over styrofoam risers with a fremed Troiani print.

Since you're not setting this up diorama style, you can think beyond regular ground work.

If there's a solid backdrop, artwork, military insignia/medals, trophy plaques/medalions, or a mirror will make your display more interesting.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 6, 2004 7:07 PM
jeffs i am a model railroader, i use real dirt sifted. for grass i use woodland scenics products
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