standing water? / puddles? Swamp land area?.......

I have an old book on modelmaking that shows how modelers use to use odorless turpentine for making wet ground as well as pools, ponds, rivers, mud puddles, etc. They would paint in a little algae, pour a little turp, flow some dirty wash on the dried turp, then pour somemore turp over that. They would build up multiple layers of color and turp that gave outstanding 3-D results. The pictures show their techniques gave as good if not better scale appearances than some of the high dollar products sold today.

QUOTE: Originally posted by RadMax8 Give future floor polish a try

I second that suggestion. I've used it for a few puddles in dioramas and it came out great.

Give future floor polish a try

Hi all these suggestions are great especially the one mentioning "PRACTICE ON SOMETHING ELSE ". I don't know your level of experience but one of the easiest methods i've found was my first attempt at water 25 years ago . I had no idea how to use clear resins so after determining where my water was to be on the base i took a piece of glass, painted my muddy /alge/ colors underneath.then to give the water texture and depth i painted clear varnish on top . After it all set up i built my land scape around it. It sounds as though you're allready done with the base.
Depending on how "finalized" you are with the base you can always cut out the water area, Put the glass down then put your entire base with the cut outs on a new foundation. hope this helps. Vic

NF,

Just wondering if you've started your water yet...

Wanted to mention to you a couple of things about water since I'm into model railroading as well as plastic models...


Water is one of the most challenging things to model in dioramas...so some trial and error are necessary. Before you go spilling some liquid on an almost finished scenery and get less than perfect results experient in some way with it..

Practice...
It is also good to prepare your scenery well...how you paint the bottom of your pond or lake is just as important if not more than the 'water.'

My favorite choice for modeling water...is WOODLAND SCENICS Realistic water.. It comes in a 12 oz plastic bottle and pours as a liquid and later dries rock solid and crystal clear...It works nice but as always with this stuff, apply it in thin layers for the best results...

Avoid Woodland Scenics ez-water as this comes in small pelets which must be heated to melt...It's a mess and is hard to work with...

Try the realistic water...available at hobby shops or www.woodlandscenics.com

It's easy that way..

Take care,
Tank

Hi all;
well i will have this project done by the next IPMS meeting in april. It went well, I learned a lot . and did the land scape washes about 7 times . each one took newer roads of ideas . Really i wish i stoped in the first two. I feal that as time gose on I will learn less is more ?..... but i love it .

for the washes i used water based paint , and used a 1 in brush . thined them out about 20/1 and went with three colors . all the difference was nice as i went to try and think about the grass/ dead leaves Swamp stuff. I went in a unlikely direction?.... but first the water .......

I used Seenic water ... ok stuff. ( way befor i did the color i used windex to fint the low spots . then i did a basic two tone base color . ID" the look then the washes ... ater next , than for the true look.
I want to michaels got the lg. bag of foiliage and I took the fine material and shifted it . then i went to a RR store and got ? red wood scale debris. and grinded it in the bag then shifted that out . then i took , oh i for giot . But it was shifted too.
the result . was a grate mix if different things that look like a mess.

I brushed the glue on some at a time used a spoon/ ladle type to apple . after some time i truned it upside down and colected the laft over in a lg Bag. then reused it again and again...
the Michael foliage i like it is cheep and in some parts it look like Sod.. bad sod but i liked it. put it in some good areas it all feel in nicely . THe X wing i made new lasor canons . and the pilot was R/P from anakin pod reacer seat and all. I threw in junk to make the cokpit look moree cluttered .
I got a micro macine yoda and ut him in.
it's red 2 Wedge antellies as the other skywalker that might have been ..........

I have to make a frame to finish it . I will try to post pics soon . later .
I will try and make ? a link for my IPMS post later if i can
Thank you all for the help ....... nfpa1002

For an example of Liquitex resin water, go up to the "Moment in Time" thread. To get a swampy effect, I'd paint the bottom very dark and add a lot of debris before I poured in the resin.

I found it in arts and crafts actually,the flower and vase section as this is used to make fake water for flower arangments.

merkin63, where in Wal Mart did you find this "Acrylic water"? Auto? Home decorations? I would like to give that a try.

hi thanks for the support.

I just bought some realistic water but not tried it yet. I went to the local news stand and read up on the realistic water articles ........

Got a question?
I mixed Elmer'sGlue and Model Master ACRYL by mistake. a drop of paint into a glob of elmers and the piant acted like Dawn dish washing liquid. WOW!!
I know the glue will cure and shrink . If the paint is obsorbed so easly and quickly, then?

Has any one ever uesd this?

? zokissima, the setting is WW2 US Marine and German P.O.W.
The German fig is from the Ostwind Flakpanzer IV monogram kit.

just to let every one know; this is not a current POW sceen.

later ,nfpa1002

Hehe, sounds like a pretty funny thing to see. Do post pics if you can.
As for the water, I've heard good things about the Realistic Water from Woodland Scenics, and it should be easy enough to tint with any paint.

thanks, mgbriggs, merkin63
for your advice ii'm waiting for pay day so....
time will see . I had asked about how to find the low spots?

I did not get any feed back . So i tried Windex and as i found the natural puddling areas. I used a acrilic paint to seperate the land from the puddles.

On another project : I was tring to greate an over fluw in a latrine . To simulate waste :

I tried the resins i have from michaels , but it would not cure with the acrilic paint " Model masters"

So i tried regulare white glue , mixed with "MM" Paint pigment and it did dry. and keeps the colors well . as this project # 2 is coming along my latrine diorama is pow diging a new hole . the old latrine is out of order . as the pow is diging the hole it breaks the wall and waste spills into the new one getting the pow . .


Now this is not politically correct . not is it in very bad taste . just for fun. i will try and have pics up soon.

this will be my 2 diorama. so i hope it good .

first was smaller than "N" scale of a castle on a mountian abouve the tree line . and all the size of a Base Ball/ even under glass. :>)

well, later nfpa1002

I use this stuff from Wal-mart called Acrylic water.It is a water thin epoxy resin,you just use equal parts of resin and hardiner.I've also had good results tinting the deepest layers of water with food colors.I pour my resin in layer,using more transparent each layer up,when all the resin is cured I airbrush a layer of Future for that extra wet look,the Future also looks great on the foilage,it gives it a satiny,humid looking sheen.

I've tried some thing call relistic water product code (C1211) from woodland scenics Its clear and you don't need to melt it down ..you can get it from any hobby shop that sells it . theres no mixing and its flexible and self-healing and most importantly its non-toxic ..

cheers mike