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African 251- Please help

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    February 2005
Posted by Kevleerey on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 10:10 PM
Thanks again everybody for the help! DoubleD- besides the seats and stowage bins, what other major inaccuracies are there and how should I fix them? By the way, what references do you use? Is there a good website or something I should look at? Thanks! ---------------------------------------<KeViN>--------------------------------------------------------
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 15, 2005 11:08 PM
well ur first mistake is getting the tamiya hanomag....that thing is sooo inaccurate! but im working on that one now too...just a heads up the back seats need backs and storage bins...
in africa the 251s were dark yellow. some had camo in dark yellow and red brown (this is from the painting instructions from the kit) i would just paint it drak yellow and use the salt technique to show off the german grey on the bottom.
as for the interior, i painted it white and then did a yellow oxide wash and a blackwash and it looks good. good luck with the kit- DJ
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Posted by Kevleerey on Monday, August 15, 2005 5:26 PM
Yeah, they would probably leave footprints too, but the idea was the mk2 has gone ahead and seen the germans and had an accident on the way back without being noticed. Oh well, I'm sure it would be better without the Brits in it, and I wouldnt have to buy another kit that way either, but still I would like to put something else in the dio. Maybe the Jerrys out of the 251 looking at or plundering the mk2.
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Posted by ajlafleche on Sunday, August 14, 2005 11:11 PM
The Crocodile is only found n the Nile basin and sub Saharan Africa, (check Google). Not a good choice, since I don't believe there was much fighting along the Nile. The Brits hiding under the bridge is a slightly better choice but raises the question of staying with a disabled vehicle when the enemy is near. If Gerry saw the car go over the edge, he's going to be on the lookout for Tommy and would not likely approach the bridge without a scouting patrol first.

Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

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Posted by Kevleerey on Sunday, August 14, 2005 9:06 PM
Thanks! I have the groundwork started and the 251, the mk2 was an old kit I had that was torn up, so I figured i would wreck it. The water isn't going to be too deep, probably mostly mud. I was thinking maybe to either have the Brits under the bridge hiding, or maybe put a croc in the river, would either be realistic? Thanks again for your help!
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Posted by rebelreenactor on Saturday, August 13, 2005 8:16 PM
Ok lets see here,

If you want to do a camo job, red brown thick lines or medium sized blotches would probably work. The interior would be German Gary. Figures, A dml figure for the driver will work even if he's not Africa korps. for the men in the back, just search around on the internet and you'll find figs you like, just be sure they have north africa clothing.
Submerging the vehicle will be something different. Ive never done it, but cutting it seems like it would work. Or just make the water deep and cover it up.

bridge, you can buy one via Verlinden (nice looking one at that) Or you can build your own from balsa or another type of wood that is close to scale.

Dont use the sand, or the dirt. Use a product called Celluclay. Mix it with the proper color paint (just cheap craft paint) and then apply. Then just add som railroad ballast and kitty litter (the plain kind) for rocks, then some slight vegitation. Well your by a river so, maybe a bit heavier vegitation.
John
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by ajlafleche on Saturday, August 13, 2005 8:14 PM
The interior of an open topped vehicle is the same as the exterior.
I check 4-5 good references and found no red brown on yellow in Africa. Doesn't mean it never happened, I just don't have any documentation. In some cases there were medium green, lightly aplied mottleing on trucks, and a least on tank with desert yellow painted in lines so the original gray showed as squares.
I wouldn't do a deep water scene in NOrth Africa, but a dry river bed would work.
For the bridge, check photo reference. I'd use appropriately sized balsa stips and scale 6X6 boards and construct it with white (Elmer's type) glue.
For your scene, you'll want to use styrofoam to build up the sides of the ravine then you can use Celluclay mixed with the right color paint for your soil, with added white glue and railorad ballast for texture. Throw in some small rocks for additional effect.

Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

  • Member since
    February 2005
African 251- Please help
Posted by Kevleerey on Saturday, August 13, 2005 7:52 PM
OK- I am building Tamiya's Hanomag (1/35). It is just yellow so far. I want to put on the red-brown camo but I am not sure about a pattern or whether I need one. Also, what color is the interior? I have seen a picture with white and kind of an aqua color. The 251 is going to be going over a bridge, thier not fighting so what figures should I get? They're going to be looking at a mk2 scout car that has run off into the river. Speaking of wich, how do you make submerged vehicles? just cut off the bottom of it? and how to build a bridge? (not a big one, just a small wood one) and will regular sand work on the base, or should I use dirt? Too many questions?Banged Head [banghead] Sorry!
Thanks for any help!
KeViN
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