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Making palmtrees and more...
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 22, 2005 12:20 PM
Hi guys,

I want to build a desert dio for my 1/72 Revell Hawker Hurricane Mk.IIc.
But how can I make palmtrees and sandssacks in that scale? And what about 1/48 scale?

Cheers,

Jürgen
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  • From: Burlington, Ontario Canada
Posted by gburdon on Monday, August 22, 2005 8:59 PM
Jurgen;

To make the fronds or "leaves" of the palm tree you can use a few methods.

1. Buy a photo-etched set - (Expensive if you're making a number of trees)
2. Use lead foil or foil from wine and liquor bottles trace the shape of the fronds and cut with scissors and/or a hobby knife
3. Use card stock or a heavy guage paper and cut the shape with scissors and/or a hobby knife
4. Use feathers and trim the edges to simulate the shape of the fronds paint as required
5. Visit a pet store that sells aquarium supplies and purchase various "palm" looking plastic plants. Paint and shade as required
6. Visit a florist or shop that sells dried or plastic flower arrangement supplies. Purchase palm looking plastic plants. Paint and shade as required.
7. Check on-line hobby stores for Preiser or Verlinden kits in these scales these kits may still be available.

While #2,#3 and #4 are tedious they will produce good results for minimal cost. #1, #5 and #6 will also give you good results however these methods can add up if you're making a number of trees. #7 is the most expensive but least time consuming in building.

For sandbags in either 1:72 or 1:48 the first principle is size. Use a standing figure in the scale you intend to build in. A full scale sandbag typically reaches the mid-calf of a 6 foot man (I know first hand I have filled a lot of them) The width across the surface of the sandbag when on a flat surface is equal to the width of the figures legs tightly together when standing. The thickness of the bag in height when on a flat surface would be equal to the height of the top of the figures boots. I hope these references make sense. With these in mind you should be able to guage a scale sandbag for either 1/72 or 1/48 scale.

Material for making scale sandbags. In 1/72 or 1/48 scale it would probably be best to use epoxy putty (Milliput or Duro or similar) Once you have the putty simply roll it to the first reference (mid-calf of your figure) once you have the roll of putty at this uniform thickness, take a hobby knife and slice "bags" off the roll at the third reference the height of your figures boot top. Now you can begin to build your retaining wall etc. forming each bag into the next as you go. Include some ammunition crates or similar items at corners or at the base of a pile to "shore" up the wall and add interest.

If you can obtain a copy of the book The Verlinden Way Vol. 2 it details how to make sandbags from putty and how to paint and detail them as well.

I hope this helps. I look forward to seeing your completed project here on the forum soon.

Cheers;

Gregory
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 3:50 AM
Thanks a lot Gregory !!!!
That will be a great help !!!
I'll try to scratchbuild the palmtrees...

Cheers,

Jürgen
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  • From: kent uk
Posted by shroomy on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 6:57 AM
maybe this will help
http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=75
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 12:08 AM
[:0]], that's great!! I was also needing to know this, thanks alot guys!!

BillWink [;)]
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    May 2004
  • From: Aberdeen, Scotland
Posted by Colin Russell on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 10:19 AM
When you make the sandbags from Milliput, you can impress a cloth-like pattern on then. I have used a 'cloth' type of Elastoplast bandage. Pressing the bandage into the Milliput makes a fine pattern similar to the sackcloth of the original.
Incidentally, I have just placed an order for brass-etched plants and palm fronds for a large diorama which the Aberdeen Modellers Society, Scotland, is working on for a museum. The cost of all that brass foliage - £1,250 !!
Hope the tip on the sand bags is of value.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 30, 2005 11:13 PM
Wink [;)], O ya, thx alot, Ummm, from where did u order the Brass etched palm fronds and stuff???
Thx,
Bill
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  • From: Aberdeen, Scotland
Posted by Colin Russell on Saturday, October 1, 2005 6:44 AM
Sonic Boom,
The order was placed with a company here in the UK called LSA Models. The palm fronds, palm trunks and boxes of various types of foliage come from several suppliers, but LSA are pulling the whole order together for us. I think they have a web site - try LSA Models. Hope this helps.
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  • From: kent uk
Posted by shroomy on Monday, October 3, 2005 10:01 AM
palm trees can be made from old soda cans as well
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  • From: Florida...flat, beach-ridden Florida
Posted by Abdiel on Monday, October 3, 2005 10:19 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by shroomy

palm trees can be made from old soda cans as well


Or brass shim stock.
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