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What's the most you've paid...
Posted by Abdiel on Sunday, August 28, 2005 6:08 PM
...for a wood diorama base???
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Posted by rebelreenactor on Sunday, August 28, 2005 6:16 PM
oh, I cant remember, i think it was around 20$ for a wood plaque. It is I think 14" by 11"
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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, August 28, 2005 6:29 PM
I make them myself. It only costs about $0.80 a board foot. They are really quite simple if you give it a try.

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Posted by gringe88 on Sunday, August 28, 2005 8:59 PM
do you put edging on yours arty? thats the only realize me and my dad wouldn't make ours ourselves, we don't have the edging equipment
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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, August 28, 2005 10:16 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by gringe88

do you put edging on yours arty? thats the only realize me and my dad wouldn't make ours ourselves, we don't have the edging equipment


Yes, I have a full woodworking set-up and do routing (edges) and all. You can still make a pretty nice base with just a power saw. Most have the ability to angle the blage from 0 to 45 degrees. You can get a nice beveled edge just by angling the blade at about 30 degrees. That is how I started making my bases. I have acquired a garage full of woodworking tools over the years to allow me to do all sorts of stuff. The simple beveled ones are easy and look good as well. Give them a good sanding and a coat of stain, they spray them with a good varnish, and you have a great looking wood base.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 29, 2005 6:22 AM
I also have a full woodworking setup (I'm in the process of building a solid oak dining room table), but you can muddle through without one if you have to. $20 is way too much for a square foot of wood.

If you don't have the table saw for Gino's suggestion you can get a simple piece of wood and put moulding around the edges to give it some character. At that point all you need is a 45-degree mitre saw, and for moulding the tiny one you use for modeling should be big enough. The simplest solution is to get 3/4" MDF and some 3/4" quarter round moulding in oak. Paint the base, add your ground material (anything wet/messy) and then add the trim around the outside edges.

I'd put masking tape on one of the two flat edges of the quarter round, urethane it with 2 coats and then use yellow glue to attach it to the edge of the MDF. It'll look great, won't cost much of anything, and can be done with inexpensive hand tools.

Of course, if you want to keep paying $20/sq foot for them, I'm sure Gino or I could sell them to you Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Kelly_Zak on Monday, August 29, 2005 9:14 AM
I make my own as well, but I use what ever I can get my hands on. For the moment, SAS (Russ) and I have split up old crappy laminated desk pieces. I run my pieces through the table saw, and make a rabbit all the way around. All of my bases have this, as I make a case for the dio and it needs something to rest on.
I'll make bases for Russ, and for his I'll use my dad's router and put some edging on them.
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Posted by gburdon on Monday, August 29, 2005 9:28 AM
Hello all;

I too make my own bases for dioramas. When I started out building dioramas I used picture frames I bought second hand for pennies. I removed the glass and used it as a template to cut the base of the diorama from plywood. I sealed the plywood and added my groundwork. Then when I was done the diorama I glued the plywood into the picture frame. I would stain the frame if it was necessary or leave it alone if it looked right.

Now that I have built up a collection of the necessary tools for making my own bases I locate the wood needed and cut it on my miniature tablesaw or use the scroll saw. For figures I look for different texture and shape pieces to set my figures on. If it cant find what I'm looking for I can turn a base on my dremel lathe.

Once I have the base I want I cover the bottom with felt and add a nameplate. Either I photoetch my own or stencil it.

I agree that $20.00 is way over priced for a base. Even if it were a custom made base that's still alot to pay for one piece. If you do the math soon your base purchases will have added up to the cost of a decent used table saw.

Cheers;

Gregory
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Posted by HeavyArty on Monday, August 29, 2005 10:09 AM
QUOTE: If you don't have the table saw for Gino's suggestion...


I was actually referring to a hand-held Circular saw. They can be angled as well. The picture frame idea works well too. Also, you can simply sand the edges over and make them look half-round. This gives a good, finished looking edge.

Agree with the others, $20 a base is crazy. You can go to a craft store and get pre-cut bases with a nice routered edge for less than $5.

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Posted by Abdiel on Monday, August 29, 2005 11:09 AM
The reason I started this thread was to get a general idea of a fair price and to see if the person I had making a base for me was trying to price gouge me. Although I have a shop, it's not set up for woodworking (I sculpt in metal).

From the posts so far, I can see this guy is indeed trying to take advantage of me Disapprove [V]...
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Posted by STUG61 on Monday, August 29, 2005 12:17 PM
I find the nice little plaques at Micheals for $1.29 . They are pine or what they call white wood. I sand them and stain them with different shades and they come out quite nice. If you are having the base made out of high quality wood it's gonna cost ya. I myself have no need to get the high grade wood, as I'm happy with the finish I get. There is a custom cabinet place nearby that will give me odds and ends of high quality oak, walnut ect, but if I had to pay for them just a small piece would run $7-$8 unfinnished.

This is a Micheals base.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 29, 2005 2:58 PM
Saving money and doing my own, they look even better when I create my own design :)

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Posted by Abdiel on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 11:41 AM
Stug61, that base from Michael's looked so good I went out to check on them for myself and lo' and behold, that was a GREAT call! I picked up what I needed for $11...thanks for the advice!!!

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 8:51 PM
2 bucks at micheals
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Posted by renarts on Wednesday, September 7, 2005 12:15 AM
He must be charging you a hefty sum if you think you're getting price gouged. Look at it as what your time is worth to you. Cutting the base, machining and finishing the edges, any finish for the base etc. To your specs.

Bases at the craft stores still have to be sanded, stained and finished, and when you have 1000 of them being cranked out a week out of spruce, you can get them for $1 a piece.

Your time, his time, its all relative.
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Posted by Abdiel on Thursday, September 8, 2005 9:52 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by renarts
He must be charging you a hefty sum if you think you're getting price gouged.


$100.00...and this is after I supplied the maple wood! It left me feeling used and dirty.Dead [xx(]
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Posted by HeavyArty on Thursday, September 8, 2005 10:53 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Abdiel

$100.00...and this is after I supplied the maple wood! It left me feeling used and dirty.Dead [xx(]


You got screwed hard. I wouldn't go back to that crook again. He shouldn't have charged you more than $20 (and that is high) to just cut and finish the wood you bought. That guy is definitely a crook, stay far away from him.

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Posted by J-Hulk on Thursday, September 8, 2005 11:46 AM
100 bucks? Whooooeeeee!

Laugh at this if you will, but I use little wooden cutting boards and cutlery holders I find at local 99 yen shops (Japanese equivalent of dollar stores) as bases.
That's one my MBT-70 is sitting on in my sig pic. About 90 cents US!
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Posted by Abdiel on Thursday, September 8, 2005 12:27 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by HeavyArty

QUOTE: Originally posted by Abdiel

$100.00...and this is after I supplied the maple wood! It left me feeling used and dirty.Dead [xx(]


You got screwed hard. I wouldn't go back to that crook again. He shouldn't have charged you more than $20 (and that is high) to just cut and finish the wood you bought. That guy is definitely a crook, stay far away from him.


Actually I didn't end up buying it. He knew I was troubled when I told him I wished he'd discussed the price beforehand (I'd actually been willing to part with 50 or 60 bucks for what I wanted!)...his only comment was, "It is what it is." I left without saying a word.

A day after following up on Stug61's post and buying what I needed at Michael's, the 'crook' came into my studio with the offer of $100 for the base and he'd throw in the two small figure bases I'd mentioned to him that I also wanted (this was before he'd hit me with the exorbitant charge.) Well, in the face of such 'generousity', I told him about my $11 find at Michael's and had the satisfaction of watching his jaw drop...heh...then I had the pleasure of saying, "yeah, I saw that price and said to myself, 'it is what it is'." He left without saying a word.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 8, 2005 12:32 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Abdiel

QUOTE: Originally posted by renarts
He must be charging you a hefty sum if you think you're getting price gouged.


$100.00...and this is after I supplied the maple wood! It left me feeling used and dirty.Dead [xx(]

Yowzah! For $100 you could have purchased a cheap benchtop table-saw and made as many of them as you like. Another $50 gets you an entry-level router and a few more bucks for a bit and you should be able to turn out your own high-quality stuff as often as you like.

Alternatively, you can get custom-made cabinet doors for much less than that, and with more work required. For example: http://www.sierracabinetdoor.com/orderform.html shows a 16"x28" door made from ash with a raised center panel for $40. I have to second the motion that you avoid your supplier in the future.
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Posted by Abdiel on Sunday, September 11, 2005 8:26 PM
Oh, oh! My story ends well after all!

Yesterday, while in the studio, my expensive woodworking 'friend' shows up with my finished maplewood base and the exhaust manifold to his sporty little Japanese car...says I can HAVE the base if I just weld on some new heads to the 3 sheared bolts sticking out of the manifold so he can back them out.

It took me all of 15 minute Approve [^]
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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, September 11, 2005 8:38 PM
Good deal. I find the barter sytem usually works best too. I trade models and model pieces/parts and castings with other modelers all the time. Glad it worked out for you.

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Posted by DURR on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 3:10 PM
that wasn't price gouging it was routeringLaugh [(-D]
i make mine with just flat boards and 1/2round mld
sometimes you can make a plaque for the front out of scrap balsa and a wood burner
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