Flak defences

In normandy, It most likely would have been on a concrete bunker. Possibley a wooden sided trench.

Hi sspanzer

cement bunkers mainly but the furher inland you went they would've used log trenches and sand bags as well.

Ron

cheers for the idears but its only a small 20mm flak so i dont what a cement bunker,you both say log trenches are you talking about the ones seen in the band of brothers movie when they assult the 88s?,i recon that would look good with sand bags all around also what kind of things could you find lying around the 20mm i was thinking of adding mabey some rifles leaning up against the sandbags mabey some helmets what else can i put a drum of water mabey?

Hi SSpanzer

You could go for the log trenchs like in Band of brothers

Got a question for ya- is the flak looking after and airfield, railway complex or a defence postion or is it going to be mobile.

If it's to protect an airfield or the like a log or wooden trench will llok good they also had the 20 mm up in towers or in cement bunkers.

If it's mobile they would just take it of what ever was pulling it and use it.

As for stuff around it would find that the only things around it would've been helmets, ammo cartridges spent shells(if in combat) bino's and maybe gas canisters.

Ron

Yeah its just going to be in a feild protecting a railway(but i am not going to include a railway) and i think i will make a wooden sided trench for it,i could easy find 1/72 helmets but as for spent shells i dont think iw ill ba able to find some of them and whats bino's.
cheers
-SSpanzer

Bino's = Binoculars sorry about that .And the wooden trench sounds good

you can try and get helmets from Preiser they make 1/72 figures and the helmets are seperate.
If you can't get them buy some cheap plastic german figures from Revell or Airfix cut of the heads and tehn cut the remaining part of the head till you get to the helmet.

for the spent shells use plasticard rod all you have to do is cut it to length and then paint it.

Ron

No need to worry about the spent shells. The flak 38 and flak 38 vierling crews saved their shells. Ammunition clips, empty and full cartridges were never put on the ground to avoid dirt and other crud from getting on the shell and then into the gun. They used mesh bag type things where the shells came out and saved them that way. Then later they would put in new primers, powder and shell.

QUOTE: the ones seen in the band of brothers movie when they assult the 88s?,

If you're thinking of the assault on the guns at Brecourt Manor, they were 105mm.

here is a link to a pretty cool site. Somehting you might want to think about is maybe making a flakturm (flak tower) it would be different and certainly a cool project .

http://www.bomberhistory.co.uk/Canal%20raids/Defences.html

Cheers for the site its very interesting.
-SSpanzer.