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I need help with rubble!!!!!
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 31, 2005 2:39 PM

Hello,
I am currently in the process of making a Stalingrad diorama, I have read all of the topics on rubble and i have used cat litter and smashed bricks and rocks up. But the rubble still looks rather plain. Has anyone got any suggestions of other techniques on how to create rubble?
I would be very pleased to hear them.
thankyou very muchBig Smile [:D]
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  • From: Rowland Heights, California
Posted by Duke Maddog on Monday, October 31, 2005 3:07 PM
In order to make the rubble look 'not so plain' try painting it with various shades of brown and grey. Give it a wash of dark brown, a wash of black, and thenm drybrush it with various light shades of grey and tan. Take some wooden skewers, popsicle sticks, matchsticks. etc. and break and 'shred' them into broken boards and beams. Stain them, blacken some ends to show where fire or shot damage had been nad then apply wash and drybrush again after adding them to the rubble.

These are my ideas. Other more experienced diorama builders will probably add more and better advice to this.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 31, 2005 3:11 PM
No, thankyou thats great i'll have to give the washes a go, i already had the matchsticks and things ready to be painted,
Thankyou so much!
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  • From: Clovis, Calif
Posted by rebelreenactor on Monday, October 31, 2005 3:27 PM
you can aslo make plaster walls and smash them up into different sized pieces. You can use legos or wood to make a square, rectange etc. mold.
John
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 1, 2005 10:42 AM
Thanks rebelreenactor
great help
i will have to try that tonight
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  • From: Burlington, Ontario Canada
Posted by gburdon on Tuesday, November 1, 2005 12:48 PM
Lone-Soldier

Remember to add some "broken glass". You can use acetate for overhead projector sheets or cut up any of the clear plastic that items come in a blister pack.

Maybe add a window frame that has fallen intact with a few cracked or missing window panes.

Don't forget that all buildings have some type of wiring either in the wall or attached to it.

If it's a factory you're building. There would be some type of stairs or overhead walkway maybe. Some of this could be "in" the rubble pile.

Drain piping from the outside, gutters downspouts etc. use drinking straw or brass tubing.

Roof tile - Use the cardboard back of a pad of paper cut into squares of appropriate size.

Sheet Metal Roofing - Lead foil pressed into the corrugated pattern. Glue 6 or 8 strips of sprue with a sprue width distance between the pieces. Press the lead foil on top of the sprue jig and press the foil into the grooves to create sheet metal sections. Give them a rusty coat with a black wash. Maybe a slight coat of Mr. Surfacer or just some Baking Soda and white glue prior to painting for a rust effect.

Some "human factor" items also could be added. A few old tin cans (Article in FSM on how to do this check the index of articles) A telephone, furniture, pictures, posters, rags, old newspaper, stove, heater, kitchen sink, etc etc.

The key is to put in as much as you want. The best way to get it right is reference. If there is a building or area similar to what you are trying to depict in your diorama photograph it from all angles. Make notes of what is around the area. How much garbage is floating around the area. What is the area around look like, stains, plants, trees, animals, rodents etc etc.

That's about all I can think of right now. I hope this helps.

Cheers;

Gregory
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 1, 2005 2:48 PM
Oh thankyou so much gburdon thats a great help its very nice of you to give me so much advice i will have to try all of them out, thanks very much
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  • From: Burlington, Ontario Canada
Posted by gburdon on Tuesday, November 1, 2005 4:56 PM
Lone_Soldier

You're welcome. That's what the forum is for passing information and assistance.
Post some pictures when you're finished.

Cheers;

Gregory
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 2, 2005 10:48 AM
I will do, thanks for the advice
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 5, 2005 10:29 PM
can you show us some pics of the "rubble" to have a better look at it
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  • From: The Great Wet North
Posted by jaysun on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 11:44 PM

Hey I know that it seems like you've gotten a lot of great advice already but I have just one more thing to add.  Try not to get too hung up on how to lay the rubble out.  Remember this stuff fell in a chaotic style.  People try to lay it all out and sometimes it looks too organized.  That's just being human.  We fall into patterns.  I usually just pour my rubble out and look at how it landed.  IF it looks crazy enough great, if not try again.  Good luck mate.  May the force be with you.

 

I love the smell of super glue in the morning. Smells like...victory.
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Posted by DURR on Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:42 AM
i'll send fred & wilma over they will take care of the rubblesClown [:o)]
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