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Battle of the Bulge Diorama idea

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Posted by Chad in the AZ Desert on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 1:15 PM

There were several instances of US Engineers blowing up bridges directly in front of German forces.  In fact, one such occurance happened directly in front of Lt. Col. Jochen Peiper, commander of the infamous 1 SS Panzer Korps responsible for the Malmedy Massacre. 

The best Battle of the Bulge reference I know for all of the different situations where these sorts of bridge actions took place is "A Time For Trumpets," by Charles B. Macdonald, who participated in the battle and later became the Chief Historian for the US Army.  There are only a few photos, but there is a complete listing of all of the units involved on both sides, their composition and the names of all of the principle soldiers on both sides.

Hope that helps.

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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Tuesday, July 4, 2006 6:31 PM
 J-Hulk wrote:
 Dwight Ta-ala wrote:

 J-Hulk wrote:
"Small U.S. Combat Engineers," as in like all the guys were less than five feet tall or something? Hmmm...Wink [;)]

 

Maybe but when you make them angry, they turn into nine foot green monsters.

Wink [;)]Big Smile [:D] 

 

Now that'd be cool!

By the way, Dwight...did you ever do that dio you were talking about? You know, with and Abrams and a giant green monster? Wink [;)]

 

The M1 model is ready but half of the Hulk figure went missing. If I remember it correctly, my daughter played with it and returned to me only the upper torso. Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by m1garand on Tuesday, July 4, 2006 9:53 AM

DOH!

Yeah, have fun at the expense of my feelings! Sad [:(]

How's Sushi in Japan these days J Hulk?  I haven't been there such a long time and I'm starting to forget what REAL sushi really taste like.  Nothing like a fresh Uni with quale egg on top!  Yummy~

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Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, July 4, 2006 9:44 AM

 m1garand wrote:
Correction!  It should have said "Small number of" Instead of small..............   Gee, you guys don't let me get off easily! Smile [:)]

Heh heh! I knew that's what you meant...but it was just too funny to pass up!

And of course, feel free to riff on any funny mistakes I might make.
If you can find any!! Bwah hah hah hah hah!  Wink [;)]

~Brian
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Posted by m1garand on Tuesday, July 4, 2006 9:39 AM
Correction!  It should have said "Small number of" Instead of small..............   Gee, you guys don't let me get off easily! Smile [:)]
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Posted by J-Hulk on Monday, July 3, 2006 4:37 AM
 Dwight Ta-ala wrote:

 J-Hulk wrote:
"Small U.S. Combat Engineers," as in like all the guys were less than five feet tall or something? Hmmm...Wink [;)]

 

Maybe but when you make them angry, they turn into nine foot green monsters.

Wink [;)]Big Smile [:D] 

 

Now that'd be cool!

By the way, Dwight...did you ever do that dio you were talking about? You know, with and Abrams and a giant green monster? Wink [;)]

~Brian
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Monday, July 3, 2006 12:43 AM

 J-Hulk wrote:
"Small U.S. Combat Engineers," as in like all the guys were less than five feet tall or something? Hmmm...Wink [;)]

 

Maybe but when you make them angry, they turn into nine foot green monsters.

Wink [;)]Big Smile [:D] 

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Posted by J-Hulk on Saturday, July 1, 2006 10:46 AM
 m1garand wrote:

Small U.S. Combat engineers did make Germans miserable in many cases...

"Small U.S. Combat Engineers," as in like all the guys were less than five feet tall or something? Hmmm...Wink [;)]

~Brian
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Posted by m1garand on Saturday, July 1, 2006 8:22 AM

Small U.S. Combat engineers did make Germans miserable in many cases and I wouldn't be surprise if there were instances where they blew up the bridge right before the German troops arrived.  I like the idea and would love to see your progress!

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Posted by Tankluver on Friday, June 30, 2006 12:24 PM
Im just going to make the Allied side of the river.
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Posted by TigerII on Monday, June 26, 2006 12:15 AM

Sounds like you are trying to build the Our River bridge scene from the Battle of the Bulge movie.  The idea is good, I suggest just making the Axis tanks or the Allies but not both.  Its going to be pretty big if you put both sides in the dio. Just my My 2 cents [2c].

 

TigerII

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:19 PM
Have no idea, but it sounds like it would be cool...
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Posted by Tankluver on Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:03 PM
I saw something on the Histiry Channel last year about the Battle of the Bulge and it said something about a panther coming up onto a bridge and an A.t. gun took out the Panthers track and the tank was either blown up with the bridge or it survived and wasn't on the bridge when it blew up.
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Sunday, June 25, 2006 6:53 PM

Firstly, I can't remember if there was an exact incident in the Battle of the Bulge similar to what you are planning to portray in your diorama but I am not sure. You can read the story here if you want to check it out: 

http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/wwii/7-8/7-8_CONT.HTM 

Secondly, I have done a few dioramas and I think the one you are planning to do (if we consider realistic fighting distances) would be a big one. You may want to refine your story so that the space required would be much smaller and ideal.

 

Good luck. 

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 25, 2006 6:39 PM
I think that's a good idea, be a big dio!

Just a few things, Tigers and Panther never fought side by side, or at least that's what I know. Also, to do the bridge seen, this would require both sides to be close together - Axis and Allies, but I don't think a Sherman would just stroll on up to a 88 lol, not a smart move, plus the fact that Tigers played the defensive position, they were usually far away from the battle area, firing from a safe position. Panthers would be more suited in the close combat situation. The Battle of the Bulge took place in the
Ardennes forest, I am sure there was a bridge or too, but most of the battle would have been deep into the woods.

Don't hold me to my word on everything, I am 99.9% sure what I have said is true, but get a few other opinions, post your idea in the Armour forum.

Good luck, Anthony.
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Battle of the Bulge Diorama idea
Posted by Tankluver on Saturday, June 24, 2006 5:43 PM

Ive been thinking of making a diorama for a long time. Ive decided 2 try and make a diorama of the battle of the bulge were a German unit of tanks and a halftrack are trying 2 capture a bridge and the bridge is being set 2 blow up by engineers  and the German column is facing resistance from a halftrack with a 75mm gun and a sherman and the engineers are leaving in a M3A2 . The German column consist of a Panther, a Tiger and a SdKfz 251/1 hanomag halftrack.

I dont now if the bridge will be blown up or being set 2 blow

P.S. What do u guyz think r some good dioramas for the battle of the bulge.

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