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US Marines in Iraq dio. (just finished.)

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US Marines in Iraq dio. (just finished.)
Posted by TANGO 1 on Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:51 AM
Hi everyone,

I have not spent much time on the forum lately due to work and family, however a few months have past and I have slowly cobbled together this simple diorama. A good friend of mine who mainly builds armour gave me this 1/35 trumpeter tracked AMP.VEH. belonging to the USMC, he said he was'nt going to build it and wondered if I would like a go. I'm an aircraft builder at heart so I found the idea of building this strange looking vehicle quite fasinating.

The kit seems to be a re-mold of a Tamiya kit, it is not the best fitting model in the world, but its simple enough to put together if you follow the instructions. As I said, I'm no armour builder so some of you will spot glaring mistakes here and there i.e. I was told that I got the paint and markings all wrong......still it was fun to do!

The dio came about after I watched a news program featuring US Marines in the vehicle that I was building so I bought some Dragon figures and went to work......The palm tree is from Pegasus models and the wall is an old piece of foam. I'm pleased with the way it turned out and enjoyed the build but it would be nice to hear what you guys think of it good or bad. So take a look and tell me what you think.....

Darren.














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Posted by MortarMagnet on Thursday, June 29, 2006 11:07 AM
I don't care if you got the paint wrong, most people can't tell.  I like this dio.  You kept the base simple, doesn't distract from the subject.  I really like that B/W pic.
Brian
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Posted by bbrowniii on Thursday, June 29, 2006 3:45 PM

Darren

Nice dio.  I like it.  Only two comments - first is that you might consider opening up some of the hatches on the trac.  Very rarely would the crew close up tight like that - it just gets too hot and they can't see all that well.  Second - the Marine Corps has adopted a new digital camoflage pattern different from the one you painted your figures in.  It is not a big deal since the Corps still had a lot of the older style camo around at the start of the war.  One more thought - there is a lot of gear stowed on the outside of that vehicle, which is not unrealistic, however, I would expect there to be a lot more boxes of ammo, chow and water and a few less duffels.  Even on longer ops, most troops carried a pretty small pack since the vehicle would be stuffed with other essentials.  And with all that gear, where are the rest of the guys?

Just My 2 cents [2c], and like I said, I think it is a really nice job, particularly considering you don't regularly build armor.

Boyd

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Posted by LemonJello on Friday, June 30, 2006 2:34 AM
Nicely done.  The amtrac looks good, love all the stowage on the sides.  I've seen the 'tracs look like gypsy wagons with all the stuff we pile on them...The figures looked good, even without the digi cammies (which have got to be a pain to even attempt, though I'm going to try a salt method I've read about sometime).  I'm no expert, but the paint scheme looks okay to me, for a USMC vehicle.  Not all of them were painted sand.  Thanks for sharing your work with us.
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Posted by TANGO 1 on Friday, June 30, 2006 3:31 AM
Many thanks for your comments guys, its nice to know where I can improve this one, thanks for your advice, I'll see if I can do something about those hatches and stowage....but I'm not ready for digi camo yet!!

Glad you stopped by to take a look,

Darren.
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Posted by mywar73 on Saturday, July 1, 2006 3:54 AM
Very very nice diorama darren...makes me think to acquire AAV and paint like the same thing..iraq war dioramas are my favorite. 
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Posted by m1garand on Saturday, July 1, 2006 8:17 AM
Nicely done.  As others may have mentioned, not all vehicles were painted in Desert tan.  Did you have the reactive armor for the kit?  If it is trumpeter kit, additional armor should have come with the kit.  I'm going to purchase a trumpeter kit just for the armor and then install it on my tamiya kit. 
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Posted by TANGO 1 on Saturday, July 1, 2006 9:06 AM
Thanks for your kind words fellas, I did'nt get reactive armour with the kit, I just added the little square bolts myself from plasicard because the photo I was using as a reference showed them. Thanks for looking at my model,

Darren.
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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, July 6, 2006 5:05 PM
For an AC builder, your not intimidated by armor in the least. Well done all around. Simple, but quite effective. Must be a bit different in weathering, as opposed to what your used too.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Saturday, July 8, 2006 10:22 AM
Thanks Tigerman,

you are right about the weathering, I am used to panel line shading and exhuast stains! Still its good to broarden one's horizons and everyone here on the forum has been very encouraging. I plan to do a Tiger I in desert scheme next, I'm building it OOB so I have no idea how accuate it will be by the time I'm done. Hopefully, I'll find some good pics on the net to help me.
Thanks again for your kind words,

Darren.
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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, July 9, 2006 9:52 PM
Good for you Darren. I look  forward to your Tiger dio. Maybe this might help. http://www.alanhamby.com/tiger.html

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Monday, July 10, 2006 4:18 AM
Thanks! I looked at that site and its a mine of information. I also found some great pics too. Its given me plenty of ideas.

Darren.
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Posted by Toother1321 on Saturday, July 15, 2006 11:13 AM
Nice Dio. Did you make or purchase that palmtree. It looks like a purchased one judging by the leaves, if not i apologize. I am looking to buy a palmtree or 2 for a base i am working on and that on looks pretty good. I would also love to know how you got that tightly packed sand look. Great build.

Steve
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Posted by HeavyArty on Saturday, July 15, 2006 4:49 PM

Nice Dio. Did you make or purchase that palmtree. It looks like a purchased one judging by the leaves, if not i apologize. I am looking to buy a palmtree or 2 for a base i am working on and that on looks pretty good.

From the original post ,  ".....The palm tree is from Pegasus models..."

 

The Dio looks great.  As the others have said, it looks right to me.  Great job for a "wingy-thingy" guy.Wink [;)] 

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Posted by richgb on Monday, July 17, 2006 6:36 AM

Great dio. I love the wall. So simple yet so real. Maybe have some track marks in the sand? Over all it's great. Thanks for sharing the pics.

Rich

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Monday, July 17, 2006 12:37 PM
Steve, Heavy Arty, Rich,

many thanks for your kind words, the dio was a fun project to do. As Arty pointed out the trees are from Pegasus models. They are pretty good considering they are half yhe price of the V.P. trees.

For the sand I use very fine grain landscaping grass sprinkled onto a generous layer of PVA. When its dry, just paint it.

Darren.
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Posted by rob gutkowski on Monday, July 24, 2006 2:29 PM

The diorama looks really good. Depending on the year you are trying to represent, the Marine Caammies are fine.   Unlike OIF 1, this time around I noticed that the Marines often wear a brown jumpsuit in lieu of digital cammies.  Also, their body armor is often a uniform brown, but their helmet covers are digital. 

My only FYI's for you would be that almost everywhere you go in Iraq, their is trash lining the roadsides, and that most "roads" are extremely rutted or full of potholes.  This isn't criticism, especially because I have not masted any diorama skills yet, but I hope to give it a shot after this tour is over.

 

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Sunday, July 30, 2006 6:44 AM
Many thanks for your kind words Rob, I have to admit I had not thought about the road conditions out there, thats a good point. I'll have to see if I can add some trash to the scene.

Take care out there,

Darren.



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Posted by rob gutkowski on Thursday, August 3, 2006 10:52 AM

  I don't know how you'd carry it off, but the trash in alleys is usually both piled up and windblown.  Plastic bags and old appliances, car parts, tires, etc.  Also, there are often old palm fronds lying on the ground near the palm trees. 

 

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Posted by zokissima on Thursday, August 3, 2006 1:47 PM
Hey, for an AC guy, you got this thing pretty good. Smile [:)]
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Posted by TANGO 1 on Saturday, August 12, 2006 3:33 PM
Thanks mate! Much appreciated.
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Posted by jthurston on Monday, August 14, 2006 3:12 PM

Yeah, I'm gonna have to echo what most are saying. This is a pretty darn good job. From what I can see, the paint isn't far off. And the green/brown/sand/black patterns are still in use in Iraq (or were when I left in May '05), in addition to the solid sands and light browns. Especially in the USMC. Also, it took the USMC a long time to phase out the "coffee stain" uniforms and phase in the digicammies, especially in the Sandbox. As you might imagine, the higher ranks and PR folks got them first, and these guys with the dusty boots, well they were wearing the coffee stains a little while longer - so I wouldn't fret too much about pattern inaccuracies.

As for the excess stowage, I say bully! The more the merrier. If there's more gear than there are people, well they're lucky they have a vehicle to carry it. But that's not to say that it doesn't happen. It certainly did with me. Also, the other guys could always be off the dio somewhere, or inside the 'trac.

All in all, I'd declare it a successful build!!

~Jerry

 

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Monday, August 14, 2006 4:29 PM
Many thanks for your kind words Jerry, its great to hear comments like that from one who has been there. Thanks for stopping by to look at my build.

Thanks,

Darren.
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Posted by darson on Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:08 AM

Darren I think the whole dio looks great and ditto on the B&W photo I thinks it looks cool, nice job.

 

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Thursday, August 17, 2006 6:12 PM
Many thanks Darren, glad the B/W photo works! Thanks for looking.

Darren.
Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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