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Inexspensive water? preferably clear.
Posted by IanIsBored2000 on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:36 PM

oka,y Well Im doing a 1/35 Omaha diorama, with an LCM 3 in it, and wanted to find a cheap product for the water.  I was really hoping to use something liek a resin so you could see the hull, men wading to shore, gear on the sea floor, bullet splashes, all that stff. But enough resin to sit a 1/35 LCM 3 into, would cost tons, the model is like a foot and a half long.  So, I was considering doing what most large scale ship modelers do for waterline dioramas, and make water out of scupley, with waves and wakes and splashes, but this just wouldnt look quite like I had in mind, So I was wondering if theres any type of cheap resin that could do the job?  The other thing I was considering was having the front end of the ship (near the beach)  Full surrounded by resin, but have the water end abour half way back along the ship, with the rest of the LCM just hanging out over, to save resin, but still show what I wanted to underwater.  Sort of hard to explain, I know, but any ideas on this?  thanks for any and all advice, or pictures of anything close to what I am attempting.

 Thanks, Ian

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Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:54 PM
Check out the floral craft section of Wal-Mart or the likes.  There is a two-part product that is used by florists for water in arrangements.  It is pretty cheap and comes in clear.

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Posted by rudedog on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:30 AM
HeavyArty has hit on my recently found product.The one that's the cheapest & will meet your other criteria is found at The " Michaels " chain of arts & crafts in the Northeast.It's called Everlasting elegance, Manufactured in KoKamo,IN 46901 by Syndicate Sales,inc.It comes in 12 ounce bottles,I don't remember the price,just the anger In how much I was Paying for Woodland scenics scenic water.It was hugely cheaper.   Semper fi,  rudedog.I have yet to try the stuff Arty pointed out when I asked the same que, a couple months ago.But this I know from many uses.

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Posted by IanIsBored2000 on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 2:20 PM
Hmm, great ideas, but the first websites I checked had everlasting elegance listed for about 15 dollars (US) for a 12 ounce bottle, So It would end up pretty expensive for me.  I do however have a michaels craft store very close by so ill check sometime.  If i cant find a cheap source for that ill probably just see what I can do with non-clear surface, since I have seen  some very nice looking large scale waterline ship dioramas.
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Posted by veedubb67 on Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:02 PM

Found this while doing a search for Everalsting Elegance:

I used to use Everlasting Elegance....you find it in the floral department of Michael's. Much better than SW. Hardens to completely solid, doesn't bubble, and is just generally easier to use. Only drawback is the $13 a pint. So, I recently went to my auto supply store.....found a product call Everfix Epoxy (2 part) Resin (used for auto body work).....love it. It isn't perfectly clear until after it's mixed and poured. The price is much better.....I'm saving $6 a quart. And instead of waiting 7 days for it to cure completely, it only takes 24 hours......and I pour it close to an inch deep in most of my ponds. It gels in just 30 minutes.....which means that I can do a waterfall (some are almost 6" high) in less than an hour. It used to mean fussing and fussing over a single waterfall for 10 - 14 hours waiting for the resin to firm up enough to stick to well. The label even states that it is the only resin that can be poured over Styrofoam....haven't tried that yet, I'm sure that eventually I will. LOL Also has about a 10 year shelf life. The only drawback I've found with this product over Everlasting Elegance is that is does bubble more.....but the good far outweighs the bad. And while it smells, it isn't any stronger than Everlasting Elegance, and less than other resins. I use ALOT of this stuff, so I feel like I have enough experience with it to know a *really* good product when I find one. 

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Posted by IanIsBored2000 on Thursday, November 16, 2006 4:13 PM
Wow thanks, sounds like a great project, I used 2 part epoxy resin not long ago and it was great except it yellowed too much to make very relaistic.  Ill have to try out that new stuff. The bubbling might even be a help making violent omaha water with wakes and bullets/mortars waves all that chaos.
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