Phantom

Anonymous

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Phantom

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 21, 2003 11:53 PM

I need help
i want to build a Phantom 1/48 scale. Im not sure wich one to get. Please help links and reviews would be helpful.
As much info as possible

rexkilla

ps: Dose tamiya have a 1/48 or 1/72 scale phantom. im sure there was one in the hobby shop Sad [:(]

c ya

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 22, 2003 2:55 AM

I've built up a number of Hasegawa 1/48th F-4s, but I don't know if it is still in production. It built up very nicely, hardly any need to fill gaps, and the detail was right on. I do not know if Tamiya does a F-4 or not. Sorry, but unable to provide any more detail.
Dick McC

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 22, 2003 4:38 AM

Tamiya does some 1/32 F-4's. I have the F-4C but have not built it yet so I cannot comment other than to say it looks good in the box! My all time favorite kit was/is the 1/48 Hasegawa F-4 family. I echo what Dick McC said above. I built a bunch of 'em too. They fall right together with very little need for fillers and the only aftermarket parts I used was some True Details ejection seats, but the ones that come with the kit are just fine. I do believe all variants (B,C/D, E, F, G, J, N, S) are still in production by Hasegawa. I recommend these kits VERY highly!

Regards,

Pat

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 22, 2003 4:42 AM

hii,ve just built hasagawa's 1/48 RAF phantom FGR2.(KIT NO;p16:2800)it is a very good kit,4 colour/squadron options,whith metal gear,rubber tyres.
got it from "hannants"(.co.uk)cost £21.99.
they also have all the after market stuff.all i added was some better ejection seats.i didnt arm it,apart from the SUU gun pod(RAF jets are rarely armed with live stores,mostly ballast or drill rounds,painted "eau-de-nil" blue )
"hannants"also have at least 10 other 1/48 F4's in there catalog(2002,not yet got the 2003)
i'd reccomend the one i've built as its a good kit for modellers of all levels,
hope this helps,
merv

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berny13

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February 2003
From: Panama City, Florida, Hurricane Alley

Posted by berny13 on Saturday, February 22, 2003 7:33 AM

If you are going to build a Phantom in 1/48, Hasagawa is the only way to go. Having worked on and around the F-4 in the USAF for twenty years, I know the aircraft very well. The Hasagawa kits have fewer errors in them. Their older Navy releases had the cockpits all wrong but their later releases are more accurate. Monogram makes a fair C/D model but has many errors. For 1/32 scale the Tamiya C/D and J kit is almost perfect. The problem is I can spot a problem as soon as I look at a Phantom kit.

Berny

Phormer Phantom Phixer

On the bench

TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale.

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale. F-4 Phantom Group Build.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 22, 2003 7:55 AM

Berny13, a little off topic here, but having spent many years in the Air Force myself, I've had many 'wrench turners' point out countless errors in my models!
I was once asked that with my big interest in airplanes, why wasn't I an aircraft maintainer. I answered that if I was extremely familiar with a particular aircraft I would probably never be satisfied with any model of it.

Pat

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berny13

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February 2003
From: Panama City, Florida, Hurricane Alley

Posted by berny13 on Saturday, February 22, 2003 12:54 PM

bubbamoose

You are correct. But some problem areas could have been eliminated if the manufacturer had done a little research. On another account, it does make the modeling hobby fun, spending time correcting, scratch building and modifying the kit to make it more accurate. Only the 1/32 Tamaya kits have a good looking cockpit, with very little to change when building the kit.

Berny

Phormer Phantom Phixer

On the bench

TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale.

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale. F-4 Phantom Group Build.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 22, 2003 7:08 PM

Thanks for all the help and i probably wont notice the incorrect features.

yeh can someone please give me some good phantom links / pics kit reviews and painting guides and anything elde that is good!

thanx

rexkilla

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rjkplasticmod

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February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Saturday, February 22, 2003 9:01 PM

Tamiya has never released a 1/48 scale F4 Phantom. Ditto to the other responders on the Hasegawa kits, they are the best choice in 1/48. As for links, try www.scalemodelindex.com . This site has links to literally thousands of useful sites to the model builder. Also try www.hyperscale.com for kit reviews. I don't recall whether they have any F4 reviews currently posted (the available F4 kits are pretty old releases ) but it's worth a look.

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 22, 2003 10:59 PM

more links and stuf please
rex

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 23, 2003 6:39 AM

rex,for cocpit & ejection seat go to "martinbaker.com"(or co.uk).
for RAF weapons stuff,go to rafarmourers.co.uk
merv

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 23, 2003 6:55 AM

hi,
sorry,my pc crashed,anyway,if you go to "martin-baker.com"you will be able to find pictures of cockpits & which type of seat is fitted to which plane,also pictures of the seats,strap arrangment & colours.
"rafarmourers.co.uk",follow the links & you will be able to access various airforces websites for armourers.this will show you correct weapon colours & warshot loads for various types of aircraft role.
merv

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 23, 2003 3:35 PM

A question for those of you who acquired the 1980's vintage Hasegawa F-4s in 1/48 scale: How much did these kits cost back then? I've been trawling through eBay for F-4s, and noted that these kits are selling for around $22-30.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 23, 2003 6:42 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by rexkilla

I need help
i want to build a Phantom 1/48 scale. Im not sure wich one to get. Please help links and reviews would be helpful.
As much info as possible

rexkilla

ps: Dose tamiya have a 1/48 or 1/72 scale phantom. im sure there was one in the hobby shop

c ya

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 23, 2003 6:44 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by daman

QUOTE: Originally posted by rexkilla

I need help
i want to build a Phantom 1/48 scale. Im not sure wich one to get. Please help links and reviews would be helpful.
As much info as possible

rexkilla

ps: Dose tamiya have a 1/48 or 1/72 scale phantom. im sure there was one in the hobby shop

c ya
If there not in stock you should get a f-4 mig ace by revell-monogram

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berny13

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February 2003
From: Panama City, Florida, Hurricane Alley

Posted by berny13 on Sunday, February 23, 2003 9:34 PM

Jugman

I can't even remember what I had for breakfast this morning, but I think they ran around $25.00 to $30.00. That was around the '83-'84 time frame when I bought most of mine. The price is to the best of my knowledge, but isn't rock solid.

Berny

Phormer Phantom Phixer

On the bench

TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale.

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale. F-4 Phantom Group Build.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 24, 2003 12:38 AM

Berny13 - wow, Hasegawa Phantoms are pricey! I just lost a bid on an F4J. I thought $24.50 was a lot, but someone else splurged $36.00 on the kit. Thanks for the info!

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 24, 2003 1:21 AM

guys,
i paid £21.99 over here in the u.k.
$24.50 is about £14.00 ish(give or take) so $36.00 is about what i paid.that is about normal for a good quality kit over here.think yourselves lucky you can get tem so cheap,anyway,the question here is not cost,but this lad askes for some help & ideas,i gave the price that i paid along with ordering info as a guide for rex(& others )
merv

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