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Posted by corsair guy on Friday, April 3, 2009 11:17 AM
Its been a long time to see this model I been looking for one my self I lost my when I was a kid I had both model done to perfection like yours, I like to have the pictures the cost of this model is past my income thanks agian for pictures if you find a cheap one let me know.
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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, March 14, 2009 5:47 AM
Depends on when I get to a particular build.. I've got about 30 projects goin' on with no real rhyme or reason or organization...  I've only finished TWO in the last 8 months, none are aircraft...  Guess I shouldn't have taken that ten years off..

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Posted by sfcmac on Saturday, March 14, 2009 4:15 AM

 Well I got a few more of the old Revell Gems out!  If you haven't checked out Summit's  Sean's P-40 you are missing a real gem!  It is looking terrific the things he has done to that old classic!

 The Figure discussion kinda interested me. Looking at some of the old kits they are split doen the middle in the same way but are actually different. Some even look the part.

 So when do we get to see the Hammerworks premier? Mischief [:-,]Laugh [(-D]Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:47 PM

I have him in "Pre-op" right now, the Phalz is on the bench at about 15%, and the Dr1 is at 80%... I lost his right arm so I'm held up a bit until my new 1/28th Dr1 arrives...  I'm working, a bit at a time, making stencils for the lozenge camo for Stachel's Phalz...

Reckon I could post a couple pics later today, when I get to the home terminal..

"Hammerworks", eh?  I like that... Consider it stolen, lol..

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Posted by the Baron on Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:42 PM

 Hans von Hammer wrote:
Yeah, he's a bit on the Metrosexual side, lol.. Thnk they were trying for an aristocratic "Prussian" look, but blew it...  He is, however, useful for a base figure for some "makeover" work... I'm workin' him right now to get him looking like the "Wounded Stachel" from The Blue Max, right after he crash-landed his burning Phalz after saving Von Richtoffen's arse... I'm doing a forced perspective shadow box for the "Hollywood at War" group build... The 1/28th "Stachel" in front, with the Eduard 1/48th Phalz D III in the middle, and the 1/72 Dr1 from the Monogram "Red Baron" car kit in the rear, flying away after the "wing-waggle" fly-over of the crash site while Stachel mouths the classic, "You son of a b*tch.." at Der Rote Kampfflieger...Big Smile [:D]

Another cool idea from the Hammerworks!  Any pics yet, or are you keeping it under wraps for now?

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, March 12, 2009 5:11 AM
PM inbound..

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Posted by B-17 Guy on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:58 PM
I've got one of these kit's, the corsair. Dont know what I'm gonna do with it. Some one already started paint, no glue though, I dont think I'll build it, too big. Wonder what do with it?........
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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:46 PM
Yeah, he's a bit on the Metrosexual side, lol.. Thnk they were trying for an aristocratic "Prussian" look, but blew it...  He is, however, useful for a base figure for some "makeover" work... I'm workin' him right now to get him looking like the "Wounded Stachel" from The Blue Max, right after he crash-landed his burning Phalz after saving Von Richtoffen's arse... I'm doing a forced perspective shadow box for the "Hollywood at War" group build... The 1/28th "Stachel" in front, with the Eduard 1/48th Phalz D III in the middle, and the 1/72 Dr1 from the Monogram "Red Baron" car kit in the rear, flying away after the "wing-waggle" fly-over of the crash site while Stachel mouths the classic, "You son of a b*tch.." at Der Rote Kampfflieger...Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:42 PM

The Typhoon was my first, when I was in elementary school, and my older cousin Scott helped me (learned about spraying paint, and priming, things like that, from him).  Also built both F4U's, the P-51B and the P-47D bubble top.  After that, I had no room on the shelf for any more!

And the same pilot, every time.

At least, he was better than the pilot they included in the 1/28 Fokker Dr. I.  I always thought that figure's pose looked a little effeminate.

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:07 AM

I think all the older hats probably have tackled a Revell 1/32 sometime in their youth. They were just plain cool and big!

You kiddin'?  They were at the top of my Christmas list from the time they started coming out, lol... I used the "Black Sheep" Corsair for my first "motorized" build.   I still snag 'em when I see 'em... Been totin' unbuilt kits of Kepford's Corsair, the Zeke, P-51B, and Beaufighter around with me since 1990, lol... I finally broke down last fall and started the Spitfire, for a diorama with the Tamiya 1/35th Wirlbelwind that shot it down.. (That's a German SP Quad 20mm for you fly-guys who don't do much armored vehicle recognition training) 

 

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Posted by lewbud on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:05 PM
 sfcmac wrote:

 

Man I used to be a cute kid? What happened? Laugh [(-D]

 

You got OLD!Laugh [(-D]

As a lover of both Pintos and Vettes there is no comparison between the two, nor should there be.  Unless you're talking about easiness to work on.  My 73 Pinto was the easiest car I ever owned to work on, right behind it was the 80 K5 Blazer.  I don't even think about turning a wrench on my 03 Mustang.  Perhaps a better analogy would have a 2009 Vette to a 69 Vette.

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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:34 PM

 Thanks for the kind comments everyone!  I think all the older hats probably have tackled a Revell 1/32 sometime in their youth. They were just plain cool and big!

PaintsWithBrush   I'd agree with ya but remember in 1970 a kit with any pit detail and it's own engine was pretty advanced stuff. Even the Tamiya stuff back then was along those lines. Models were mean't more as toys and gimmicks abounded at the cost of accuracy but what does a 7 year old know anyways? LOL

Man I used to be a cute kid? What happened? Laugh [(-D]

Summit  Still playing catch -up Sean fighting with that FM Ventura and scratching stuff for my 251/ 10 You better believe I am wanting to do more of these oldies. I can't remember the last time I was anxious to get home from work and start on them again. Didn't want to go to bed as I was having such fun!  Wife had to threaten me with no Sat morning cartoons to get me to go to bed.

mkhoot , You know I was really comparing the Zero to the new Tamiya one as I used the extra markings. The Tamiya kit was a great ref.  When looking at them side by side it was like comparing a Ford Pinto to a Corvette.  The Revell kit has 8 steps. The Engine 4 parts.  The Tamiya kit is a book and the Engine closer to 45 parts alone. The kits are what they are but I was able to use a lot more of my imagination on the Revell. I think each have a place here though.

lewbud  Yep I bought that kit just for the decals! LOL Got an oil well to sell ya too! LOL! It was actually a gift and speaking of switch I got a couple from Christmas on the to do list!

Hans von Hammer  I'll be looking for it. Great subject! Don't let me miss it!

richs26  I think that is when I first read that book. My parents got it for me out of the school's Scholastic book sales. Think the paperback cost 99 cents.  How did that quote go ? Give me 15 minutes with any hero and I'll prove he's a bum? Something like that.

WarHammer25  Ha  great quotes abounded even if they were embellished.  My favorite character now is that Crusty Mechanic everone is wary of!.  You College boys better quit bringing back my planes full of holes or I am gonna knock ya in the head!

the Baron  I gotta agree with ya Baron!  That and the female nurses that looked like they belonged in a Charlie's Angels episode.

Guy  wondered if you still cared LOL!  Makes me feel missed in a manly no pink sorta way. I figured if you can build those Gunsites in 1/48 then I had to give it a shot in 1/32!  What you working on now? You have been quiet and that usually means your into something! 

trexx  Great tip. I actually finally after all this time ordered some Tamiya Tape.  Frank swears by it! Or at it.. One or the other.  I got all that fixed up somewhere in the process. Everytime I took a picture It seemed I'd see something in the photo I didn't notice before. Been taking a lot of pics. Probably just should get better light and new glasses LOL!

 Those drinking problems and depression tend to feed off each other. Still know a lot of people that live like that and think it's normal. Especially in the service sad to say.  Still pretty much gets ignored until it gets out of control. Maybe the same qualities that make them into a brawler and drinker are related to the courage and precision of the warrior. Who can say?

Well thanks again for all the swell comments Fellows!  I see it has a lot of memories for you all as well! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

 

 

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Posted by trexx on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 4:29 PM
 the Baron wrote:

...Pilot figure, who appeared in every nation's aircraft, in all theaters, wearing that heavy flying suit. I mean, who's idea was it to mold front and back halves?! ...

 More than likely the public relations department dude that receives customer complaints about sink holes in the plastic parts!

 

Neat-O work on those, Aaron. Wonderful detail.

...there are some seams showing on the leading edge of that Corsair though (as mentioned earlier). It needs some putty squished in there and a little touch up. Also some blue paint appears to have been sucked under the masking on the cowl. Tape masks need to be burnishes down real good, especially with thinned paints such as with airbrushing. But don't mash it too hard either, I've cracked the seams on my builds doing that!

BTW, on my nightstand currently is Pappy Boyington's autobiography, Baa Baa Black Sheep. It's very interesting. He was a very troubled and complex man... he suffered from clinical depression and alcoholism...

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Posted by Luftwoller on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:57 PM

Aaron, Excellent stuff. You are a serious asset to this forum just for your sheer enthusiasm and nutjobbedness . Some of your scratchbuilding is just fantastic and now youll have more time over at your true home with the rest of the reggies.

...Guy

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:05 PM

Great nostalgia build, Aaron!  And you've done a nice job adding detail to both of these birds.

Gotta love Revell's Generi-Pilot figure, who appeared in every nation's aircraft, in all theaters, wearing that heavy flying suit.  I mean, who's idea was it to mold front and back halves?!  They scaled him down to 1/48 for their B-25 and included 3 in the kit, when that one was issued.  Heck, I think he might even have been passed along to Hasegawa at some point.

But you know something-that pilot actually looks a lot more like Boyington than Robert Conrad ever did Wink [;)]

Anyone remember Peter Frampton's cameo on "Baa, Baa, Black Sheep" as an Australian coast watcher?  With his Seventies perm and everything.

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:58 AM

 richs26 wrote:
Revell's original offering of the 1/32 Corsair was the #29 which was Ira Kepford's bird, I think, but correct me if I am wrong. 

You're right, because I built both of them, when I was a kid.

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Posted by WarHammer25 on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 6:52 AM

Excellent job Aaron! I didn't know Revell made those. I would have to agree though that the figure looks nothing like Boyington. Great job with two vintage kits! Thumbs Up [tup]

They really bring back the memories. I used to watch " Baa Baa Blacksheep" all the time when it was on the History Channel. "I get you next time Boyington!"

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Posted by richs26 on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:56 AM
Revell's original offering of the 1/32 Corsair was the #29 which was Ira Kepford's bird, I think, but correct me if I am wrong.  I always wanted one for my birthday or Christmas, but never got one, just other 1/32 fighters: Hurricane MkI,  Spitfire MkI, Seafire, and the Me-109G.  Also, Boyington's book, "Baa, Baa, Black  Sheep" was reprinted for the TV series in 1976.

WIP:  Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 73rd BS B-26, 40-1408, torpedo bomber attempt on Ryujo

Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 22nd BG B-26, 7-Mile Drome, New Guinea

Minicraft 1/72 B-24D as LB-30, AL-613, "Tough Boy", 28th Composite Group

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:34 AM

Mike  have you seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHO8hLB3xBk&feature=related

 I read Black Sheep 1 and found that book to be pretty genuine in getting a feel for the Real Greg Boyington. He wasn't very good at pretense. Good old fashioned straight forward fellow.

 How is that ol' Monogram Avenger coming along? Have I missed it. Been kinda in and out with bum choppers. It came to mind more than once while I was working on these especially when  filling all those seams.

Yeah, I taped that one..

The Monogram Avenger is at the same point it was when I last posted in the thread about it... I kinda put it on the back-burner to get caught up on some GB projects (which I'm suckin' hind ta-ta in as well) and will get back to it eventually, I guess... It's at about 85%. but the dio needs to get started soon... I've gone back to the original Midway dio idea, with it being VT-8's sole survivor (8-T-1) from the battle..

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Posted by lewbud on Monday, March 9, 2009 11:29 PM

Aaron,

If I didn't say it over in the NAWGB great job on the Corsair!  So I take it Pepsi was the Zero?  I was about to say you were a steely eyed model builder buying the Tammie Zero just for the decals, but what the heck you are a steely eyed model builder.  Great work on both kits.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by mkhoot on Monday, March 9, 2009 11:10 AM
Excellent work-Show that some fine models can be built with these older kits.
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Posted by Summit on Monday, March 9, 2009 10:55 AM
Aaron - The Revell Oldies look Fantastic . I can not even Express how much I enjoy seeing old kits like this built up with the extra details.Approve [^] Almost everyone who grew up in the 70's built these kits and can appreciate the extra work and TLC you have put into them.Smile [:)]Wow!! [wow] Well done my Friend , looking forward to seeing your next classic kit project. Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by PaintsWithBrush on Monday, March 9, 2009 9:59 AM
Nice work on those kits. I am in the final stages of the Corsair myself. I believe it must have been the inspiration for the emergence of the aftermarket industry due to it's lack of detail in all aspects. Basic only begins to describe what you get in the box. How about that kit cockpit and decal sheet?
Knowing how little there was to work with initially allows me to appreciate your build all the more.
I went with a True Details USA cockpit and got a set of Techmod decals to get all the stenciling. I am hoping the kit decals have held up over time so I can have the correct #86 and kill flags.
Thank you for posting those fine aeroplanes, it was a treat to see them.

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Posted by sfcmac on Monday, March 9, 2009 9:33 AM

spiralcity,   Thanks you know I always imagined him blocking punches with his face kinda like Rocky Balboa.  Reading some of his stories I don't think that's too far off although it seems he was more of a wrestler.

skipper74134  Thanks heck of a compliment!  We ain't gettin older just more experienced!

Daywalker  good golly Frank! Your right he does look like the Campbell's soup kid!

 As far as the other fellow? He was showing his technique for detailing pits. A bit of a contortonist I hear. Laugh [(-D]  I did have fun!

Division 6  I feel your pain. My original one had a moving box of books  fall on it. Really shattered it. Boohoo [BH] I shall look for those DVD's today. They are like $35 plus  even on amazon Geeze!

Mckay  thanks and the Models  came out pretty good too! Spring Break on the Texas coast!

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yardbird78  Thanks! I saw those seams as well after the fact. Gott em cleaned up again. The wing fit was probably one of the most challenging parts of this kit. Cleaning up the seams without destroying the old fashioned raised details is fun. I used lots of that blue painters tape to protect it. Summit refers to the process as, " Lather, rinse, and repeat"

Pavlvs  That's what I thought too! The Zero Mock -ups were very good in looks but the model isn't a mock -up and I had spare decals from the Tamiya Kit to make the Rabaul 1943 version of an early A6M5 so I went for it!

RadMax8  It is cool to know those episodes still play on TV!  Does the retro channel play the old commercials of the time? I agree with you on the old kits. I liked building them so much I looked into getting some more of the old ones. A lot are still available!

Mike  have you seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHO8hLB3xBk&feature=related

 I read Black Sheep 1 and found that book to be pretty genuine in getting a feel for the Real Greg Boyington. He wasn't very good at pretense. Good old fashioned straight forward fellow.

 How is that ol' Monogram Avenger coming along? Have I missed it. Been kinda in and out with bum choppers. It came to mind more than once while I was working on these especially when  filling all those seams.




 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, March 9, 2009 8:34 AM

Well done on two classic kits...  Wish Revell would have done a bit more work making that Corsair match one of the seven(?) real ones in the series, instead of reboxing the original, but overall, I think I bought three of 'em over the years, including the VMF-214 version..

I built the Zeke before the series, but never in the grey scheme... Don't care what anyone says, both kits were excellent subjects for super-detailing..

"The Devil in the Slot" was about the best episode of the series, IMHO..  I "fly" MS Combat Flight Simulator 2 and built that, and all the other missions shown in the series for that game...

I bought the DVDs as well, but as always, the show doesn't get better when it became "Black Sheep Squadron"...

Trust a bit of trivia about the series.. In the book, "Black Sheep One" the series is discussed quite extensively, and the thing that I'd always suspected but couldn't prove was indeed confirmed.. In order to maintain some authenticity, the producers used actual color comabt footage in many of the "dogfight" scenes... This was quite acceptable, until the detractors of the show discovered that real people were getting killed in those scenes and the uproar from the "peace-freaks" was that they were apalled that people were dying in combat and that it was part of a TV show...  It's ok to pretend to kill people, but shame if you show real folks, eh?  Anyway, they got loud enough in their complaints and threats that the show's producers were worried about sponsor boycotts, so they came up with those cockamamee story lines and "Black Sheep Squadron" came to be, and no more gun-camera or comabt footage was used...

Another bit was from the actual Black Sheep themselves... Sems that they were quite upset that Boyington used them to make money for himself, and there were a few hard feelings among the Black Sheep regarding Pappy.  One 214 pilot was quoted that there were a couple things that were dead-on accurate: "There was indeed a WW2 USMC fighter squadron VMF 214 named 'The Black Sheep' commanded by Greg Boyington, and they did indeed fly F4U Corsairs. That's were the truth ended"...  Pappy explained his going along with the writers and procucers simply by saying, "I needed the money"...     

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Posted by Division 6 on Monday, March 9, 2009 5:40 AM

They have the first season out in 2 DVD sets.

I have the first one haven't picked up the second yet.

Kinda expensive.Angry [:(!]

 

Eric... 

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Posted by RadMax8 on Sunday, March 8, 2009 11:15 PM

Too cool! I was watching that show last night (we have a retro TV channel here) and the gues star was Boss Hogg... with a French accent. It was so weird.

I like what you did with these old kits. Just goes to show ya, with a little love even oldies are goodies!

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Posted by Pavlvs on Sunday, March 8, 2009 11:10 PM
Beautiful job.

If Revell wanted to make the markings accurate to the show, they should have made a kit of a T-6 as the zero since they were the planes used in the show.

Deus in minutiae est. Fr. Pavlvs

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Posted by yardbird78 on Sunday, March 8, 2009 10:10 PM

Nice work on your Pacific adversaries.  You might want to put a little more work into the seams on the front of the Corsair wing so that they don't show.

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