FSM Aircraft ID Quiz #3

Hey Blackwolf:
isn't that the French's newest Dassault Rafale?

No it's their other flying Turkey (special export version for Iraq)

Okay, even though a few of you have it right there's been quite a bit of confusion on this one, even more than the BC-1. Soooooo....

Here's another photo of this jet:



Click here for a bit larger image than the FSM enlargement.

And, a hint:

In both photos, 'yer lookin' at the one and only example of this bird to have been built.

Also, some have submitted replies giving the correct name but not including the variant. Usually I'd let that kinda stuff go. But in this case it's ever so important because even though it has the family resemblence, this aircraft is completely different from all of it's 'brethren'. (Indeed, almost all of the aircraft in this family are totally different from each other...)

I should have mentioned this last from the get-go, I suppose.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!


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Okay, my last minute hint-dropping inspired a few additional replies and one re-guess.

We had 19 replies with six of them being correct:

team_tornado
djmodels1999
falcon039
upnorth
oggy4624
garydmason


The answer:

Mirage 4000

I guess I picked a good one here; thought it would create some confusion and it did! I expected some would ID it as the Rafale prototype and that was, indeed, the most popular answer. The EFA and even the EAP were suggested as well as the Saab 39 Gripen.

Anyhoo, if you're unfamiliar with this bird, here's a few pages to check out:

General Info - One really crappy image and a buncha info & specs which seems to be generally accurate.

History of the Mirage 4000 - This series of pages is in French, but it's very interesting to go through. (Especially if you use a text translator) Alotta the photos aren't of the greatest quality, but they're useful, nonetheless. There's a comparison of the Mirage 4000 and the Mirage 2000 as well as coverage of the Mirage G8. The last page is an excellent walkaround of the Mirage 4000 as it looked just out of the paint shop of the museum at Bourget.

'Desert' Scheme - There's just two images on this page, but they're good ones and they show the Mirage 4000 in the scheme it wore for the 1987 Paris Air Show.

Hmmm, trying to decide what the next one will be. One of you gave me a good suggestion (thanks, Caine!) and I may just use it.


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how about someone find a DECENT picture of a b36 in combat or a b29 the moment of dropping the atomic bomb? they dont exist!!!

ok some wartime pics of me 262, in different colors

unnamedplayer

I hate do disagree with you, but several years ago (when I was just a budding NBC Puke), I found a book in the local university library on the effect of nuclear weapons that were dropped at US test sites (Bikini Island and Nevada). It was a highly scientific tome, but had a lot of neat graphs and pictures showing the different types of equipment involved and the effect of heat, blast and radiation on the target and surrounding areas. Amongst the pictures were a couple of shots of B-29's taken at the moment of release of the weapon (think both were taken during the early testing at Bikini after the war). May not be pictures taken during combat but the bomb was being dropped. Don't remember what the name of the book now but think it was published by the Atomic Energy Commision sometime in the mid 70s.

That was a good one blackwolf! It made it really tough seeing as how it looks like the combination of so many different Dassault aircraft. You can see characteristics of the Mirage, Rafale and the Eurofighter all in one plane.

Now I know!

So sorry I missed that last post. I actually knew that one, just the result of having a good friend who is a french plane lover....I know, I know its an illness, we're all hoping for his quick recovery.

Hello everybody
I am not a great traveller at all, but I saw the 4000 fly ... in Farnborough and only a few seconds as it took off and disappeared; impression was like with F 15 : power. Unfortunately, it was a Dassault private venture and Armée de l'Air could not afford it ( did we need it anyway is another question, but if the national Air Force does not buy national planes, you have few chances to sell them abroad) on the other hand, there are great chances that all this engineering served with further projects like Mirage 2000, which was developed at the same time. By the way, did you know that Mirage IV was a bigger design of Mirage III ? (you see, guys, thre are not only bigger F/A 18 )

Salut José...

Any close-up pictures of the Mirage IV..? And have you heard that Eduard are releasing a brand new Mirage III in March 04..?

Domi

Hey, I said "some kinda funky, twin-engined, canarded Mirage!"
Not close enough?

Lessee, in chronological order:

No photos of B-36's in combat exist because the B-36 never saw combat. (Sounds reasonable to me... )

DJ, you wanted close-ups of a Mirage IV; Here 'ya go!

What scale is that Eduard Mirage III going to be?

And J-Hulk, technically you were correct in identifying it as a Mirage, but I was looking for the exact variant. Although, I forgot to mention this in the thread-starter. My bad! And when I caught it it was too late. Oh well, I'm only perfect on Mondays and Thursdays...

ANYHOO, I'll give you the score afterall...

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Ladies and Gentlemen,

We had an additional winner for Quiz #3. On a technicality By virtue of the fact that he DID use the words 'Mirage', 'twin-engined', 'canarded' and, MOST importantly, the word 'funky' to identify the Mirage 4000, I'd like to congratulate:

J-HULK

contextual definition of the word 'funky'

funky ['fung-kee] adj (funkier, funkiest, funkified, funkification) (informal)
1 weird, strange, unusual
2 groovy (as in: ' way-cool-and '), far-out

synonyms - tubular, tripindicular, gnarly




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Woo-hooo! That means I got one out of the first three right! (I was in the "close, but no cigar" category with "Badger" and "Texan" on the first two)
Woo-hooo!
Thanks for the review of my answer, Blackwolf.

And, of course, I was inferring both definitions 1 and 2 with my use of the word "funky."
I would have used "gnarly," but I didn't want to sound too Ninja-Turtley.

QUOTE: Originally posted by J-Hulk I would have used "gnarly," but I didn't want to sound too Ninja-Turtley.

Like, fersher, dude. I totally getcha; to the max.

Dear Lord...




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Ya know, there are people out there who actually talk like that...I suppose...never really met any, but you do hear about them...

Yeah, I think they live where a lot of earthquakes happen, and they have foreign governors.............

Gee, J-Hulk. I'm surprised you didn't make a reference to "Valley Girl" (Moon Zappa), or "Dancin' Fool" (from "Shiek Yerbouti")

I grew up with a sister and later went with a gal both of whom talked like that. With my sister it was a couple year fad. But she was my sister; I was supposed to hurl insults at her anyway. But the gal I went with just never lost it from her childhood, and she did grow up in the land of smog, so it was understandable. Did get old after awhile tho...


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QUOTE: Originally posted by Pixilater Gee, J-Hulk. I'm surprised you didn't make a reference to "Valley Girl" (Moon Zappa), or "Dancin' Fool" (from "Shiek Yerbouti")

One of my leg's shorter than the other and both my feets too long....

QUOTE: Originally posted by maddafinga QUOTE: Originally posted by Pixilater Gee, J-Hulk. I'm surprised you didn't make a reference to "Valley Girl" (Moon Zappa), or "Dancin' Fool" (from "Shiek Yerbouti") One of my leg's shorter than the other and both my feets too long....

ImaybetotallywrongbutI'ma...

I am-a really something that's what you'd probably say....

Hello happy model builders
To answer to Domi, I think I also have some close pictures of Mirage IV because a friend of mine has covered a 1/48 Heller with aluminium sheet (not foil, thin sheet he forms with a tiny hammer and a teaspoon, and that he glues to the model with epoxy) and he needed pictures for details . I'll send them as soon as I find them. As for Mirage III, there is a Fonderie Miniature III E, but it' s merely the Heller III C with some resin conversion, and it seems to be so so. Soem of my friends here are expecting the Eduard (1/48) which will be a III C normal and then in Profipack form. It seems the thing will be great.
On another topic, ICM has closed down; it is probable their molds will be taken by another company ( but what will be the prices of the "new" kits under new brand ?)
I made my reserve at my LHS WSL (while stock lasts)