All used up, Sir...

bbrowniii

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April 2003
From: 41 Degrees 52.4 minutes North; 72 Degrees 7.3 minutes West

All used up, Sir...

Posted by bbrowniii on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 12:51 PM

Gentlemen (and Ladies, of course),

...Hey, did anyone notice I got promoted! Yippee!!... Big Smile [:D]

Oh sorry, I digress...

As I mentioned in a earlier post, I am working on an F4U-1D Corsair. I intend to place it in a diorama. This diorama will depict the plane with serious (but not catastrophic) battledamage having rolled off the side of the runway after returning from a mission. The wounded pilot will be struggling to climb off the wing as a jeep races to his aid.

What I need from y'all is some references that show good photos of battledamaged aircraft (preferably WWII - ideally fighters, but bombers will do). As always, I am eternally grateful and forever in your debt Bow [bow]

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 1:50 PM

Devil Dog,

What rank did you get promoted to? I'm assuming that you meant a Marine Corps promotion.................................. Big Smile [:D]

Some good references for battle-damaged Corsairs are:

Detail & Scale Volumes 55 & 56 (two books) by Bert Kinzey
Warbird Tech Volume 4 by Barrett Tilman
Corsair Aces of World War 2 by Mark Styling.

Lots of pictures of damaged Corsairs in all of these. Good Luck, and SEMPER FI!!!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 1:54 PM

There's a lot of pics of Pacific battle damaged birds here. It will probably give you some good ideas.

http://j-aircraft.com/familyphotos/familyphotos.htm

Hope this helps.

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bbrowniii

Member since
April 2003
From: 41 Degrees 52.4 minutes North; 72 Degrees 7.3 minutes West

Posted by bbrowniii on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 5:28 PM

garydmason,

Nope, not a promotion in the Corps, but a promotion at Finescale.com. I went from "Snap-together" to "Box-Stock"... Boy, I must be doing sumthin' right.... I hope it isn't a brevet rank...

SEMPER FI

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

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bbrowniii

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April 2003
From: 41 Degrees 52.4 minutes North; 72 Degrees 7.3 minutes West

Posted by bbrowniii on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 5:35 PM

Pixilater,

Great site! Thanks!

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 5:43 PM

Great idea for a diorama Boyd! Are you going to put "Marston Mat" on your runway? I always thought it would be cool to put a pacific fighter on some but not sure how to replicate that...I wonder if anyone sells it? That would be one for the Diorama forum I guess...

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 5:53 PM

Boyd,

Where are you stationed? Or, are you now a former Marine? Congrats on the FSM promotion. I've been a member for almost a year, and have just hit 220 posts (this one makes 221). Some of these guys, who have ALSO been on for about a year, have almost 3000 posts!!! HOW do they get any MODELING done?? Confused [%-)]

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rangerj

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March 2003

Posted by rangerj on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 6:21 PM

Brevet Box Stock, it has a certain ring to it! Is that one step above, or below ,"gunny"? Let's ask the Sgt. Maj. , he'll know. There have been several articles in FSM over the years showing battle damaged aircraft and the technics used to "create" the damage. Search back in the older issues. Sounds like a fun project.

I heard that the Corps brought back the Warrent Officer rank referrence of "gunner". Is this true? rangerj (3 hard stripes)

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 7:03 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by rangerj

I heard that the Corps brought back the Warrent Officer rank referrence of "gunner". Is this true? rangerj (3 hard stripes)

A real "gunner" is a CWO in the Marine Corps with an infantry MOS who has been in atleast 16 yrs and attained GySgt or higher. They are the supreme experts on infantry weapons systems in the Corps. The rank went away for awhile, but was reinstated back in 88. The term "gunner" though, is used rather often as a term of endearment to CWOs.

-butterbar jarhead

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Jeeves

Member since
February 2003
From: Saratoga Springs, NY

Posted by Jeeves on Thursday, January 8, 2004 8:03 AM

Hey AJACKETSFAN...

Verlinden makes a diorama PSP (Marston Mat) base for 1:48 scale aircraft...it comes with some extras like ammo cans, .50 caliber guns, fuel barrels, etc....it's pretty good.

Mike

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John P

Member since
February 2003
From: Joisey

Posted by John P on Thursday, January 8, 2004 8:08 AM

I just picked up a book called "Shot to Hell" at Amazon. Great pics of shot-up warbirds. There's also a series called "Broken Eagles" which has LOTS of pics of WWII Luftwaffe bone yards.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 8, 2004 11:39 AM

Thanks Jeeves, I'll check that out!

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bbrowniii

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April 2003
From: 41 Degrees 52.4 minutes North; 72 Degrees 7.3 minutes West

Posted by bbrowniii on Thursday, January 8, 2004 6:56 PM

garydmason,

Back in the day ('87-'91) I was stationed at Camp Pendleton, CA with Weapons Company 2/5. I was a Heavy Machine Gunner back then - .50-cal, MK-19. Great stuff! After I got off active duty I headed into the reserves. I've bounced around a little as I have moved, but currently I am with Weapons Company, 3/25 in Akron, Ohio. I am the Platoon Commander for the 81-mm Mortar Platoon.

To everyone else, thanks for all your input!

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

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bbrowniii

Member since
April 2003
From: 41 Degrees 52.4 minutes North; 72 Degrees 7.3 minutes West

Posted by bbrowniii on Thursday, January 8, 2004 6:59 PM

AJACKETSFAN,

Two things, being a Jackets fan myself, why do the old CBJ suck so bad?... Breaks my heart.

As for the diorama, I am glad you like my idea. I hadn't considered using the Marston Mats, but now that you bring it up, I just might.

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 8, 2004 7:07 PM

OOH RAH, Boyd!! Glad to hear you're still in the Corps as a Reservist. I have a lot of relatives and friends near the Akron area. If I remember correctly, Goodyear built the FG Corsairs in Akron.

I, too, like your diorama idea. You oughta post some pictures of it when you're done with it. I've always been kinda apprehensive about building dioramas. Hell, I'm doing good just to get a model built. Hope yours comes out great!!

SEMPER FI, DEVIL DOG!!!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 8, 2004 10:24 PM

bbrowniii:
More than a little impressed with your work and am looking foreward to seeing more!
I'm working on the same model and also planning a diorama. The problem for me is finding figures in the 1/48 scale. I want some mechanics as it will be in a repair facilitiy. If you can make a suggestion as to where they might be found................... Confused [%-)]

Great weathering on the models. Thanks for sharing.
mkay

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bbrowniii

Member since
April 2003
From: 41 Degrees 52.4 minutes North; 72 Degrees 7.3 minutes West

Posted by bbrowniii on Monday, January 12, 2004 6:51 PM

mkay,

I, like you, am struggling for figures. If you are looking for mechs, I think Verlinden does a set of German ground crew mechs. At least one is in shorts and has no shirt on, which would be appropriate for the Pacific theater. I don't know how specific the figures are in terms of their uniforms, but with a little modification and some painting you could probably get away with using them.

As I find more figures in 1/48 I'll let you know.

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 9:42 PM

bbrownii:
I just found some ground personell in 1/48 at squadron. They will have to be modified some but I think they will be helpful. I will check Verlin''' and search them out. I like the idea of the mech w/o the shirt which will work well with what I have in mind------a couple of planes in various stages of repair in a foreward base. If anyone has any suggestions I would appreciate it seeing as how I never served in the armed forces. My admiration, I hope will be reflected in the project. Approve [^]

mkay

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