Snaps' new build - Revell 1/32 JU-88

Cockpit looks very nice. Are those boxs a from the PE set or the kit cockpit.

Hi chaps

Another update for my Junkers.

The "front office" is coming together slowly but surely. I am not sure how much time I will get on my bench this weekend as I am busy being an official photographer for a 40's re-enactment weekend and I also have a concert to fit in as well.

Some seats have come together with much muttering. These ARE NOT easy to do and will require repainting and  a much put off dip into the Eduard Seatbelts photo etch packet.

Overall this build goes together really well and is very good value for money. The Big Ed set is also a good deal for upgrading the cockpit and other areas but newcomers may find that some changes asked for in the instructions a bit confusing at first. I am still puzzling over a couple.

The base for the pilots seat is on the clear sprue and although I have used it to get the mount and pilots seat flush and square I still have to mask and paint this.

Revells' 1/32 HE-111P is still MIA so after this build is completed I will return to my armour, finishing GWH SWS with IR searchlight and then Maybe, If I am a good boy I will build Hobby Boss' VK4502 (P) Hintern.

James

Ye, i will deffinatly be buying them for the more complicated ones. But at £3-4 each for 72nd, i would buy one for a simple canopy as you find on most fighters. They are easy enough to do with normal tape.

I have never used a mask set but in looking at complicated greenhouse canopies (e.g., Bf 110, Ju 88 etc.) I can see where they have their merit.  I must say, that has to be my LEAST favorite part of this hobby, canopy masking.

I think we would all rather have to wait a while for updates than to hear you have keeled over due to stress. So take you time.

I do like these eduard masks, especially when they come with the Big ed sets. But i would only buy the mask on its own for a complicated canopy. But like you have found that on occasion a bit of trimming is needed, and also found i ahve needed to add a bit of tape a couple of times.

Here we go with some more photos.

Progress is slower than I hoped for. This is because I am at a busy time of year on the social front and I do need to rest more during the day to let the heart stop panicking and threated to fail on me when I am slightly more active that it can cope with.

I decided that as I have the BIGED set I would "have a bash" with the mask packet and see what happens. I took a while to sort things out and study closely the instructions and the mask cutouts before starting.

Time seems to fly when you start working with these things and you have to work close up. I found that some parts of the mask needed trimming a bit and a sharp knife was employed very carefully.

After masking up the major cockpit parts I put a coat of RLM 02 on to simulate the inside framework and then put the outer coat or RLM 70 / 65v.1 on. Most parts still need another coat and the masks will stay in place until the parts are on the aircraft. THis will avoid my leaving a big glue fingerprint on the canopy... like I am apt to do frequently without realising it!

well.... have to plant a few fruit trees and then back to the cockpit interior!

Comments Welcome

James

Looking very nice.

The wing on the A-4 is longer than the A-1, plus it did have different engines which gave a different apperance. These a bulge underneath the A-4 engine running front to back, hard to explain without posting pics.

snapdragonxxx

Reasoned:

Looking great thus far, is this an A-1 or A-4?

 

 

This is supposed toi be an A-1 (it says so on the box). In actual fact I think that there was very little outward looking differences between the A-1 & A-4 I think the upper MG mount was turned into a double one and there were some electronic and control upgrades and that's about it AFAIK.

I suppose that someone out there will have a full list of the differences, but AFAIK the airframe basically remained the same.

Up and coming after this will be Revells' new HE-111P when It finally hits the shelves and I do hope that to continue the series they will have a go at the Dornier Do-17 in 1/32 then the Luftwaffe builders will have the 3 principle bombers in 1/32. This could also please the Dio builders out there who do 1/35 / 1/32 stuff. Not really Much difference between the scales but a HE111 undergoing maintainance and being readied for a bombing mission could be a food one to have a go at.

Anyone out there feel up to having a go at doing one of the HE-111Z dual jobs in 1/32?

James

James

If not mistaken, I think the A-1's wing is shorter, rudder profile is different and the engines are different.  When I was trying to get the Luftwaffe BoB subjects in 1/48, I found a Do 17Z in Hobbycraft (which has it's issues), a He 111H4?  Monogram, and the Ju 88 A-4 Revell (had to buy converstion kit for A-1 from aftermarket firm since no A-1 in 48th).  Once I run through the 1/48's I would like to try my hand at the 1/32 subjects.

Reasoned

Looking great thus far, is this an A-1 or A-4?

This is supposed toi be an A-1 (it says so on the box). In actual fact I think that there was very little outward looking differences between the A-1 & A-4 I think the upper MG mount was turned into a double one and there were some electronic and control upgrades and that's about it AFAIK.

I suppose that someone out there will have a full list of the differences, but AFAIK the airframe basically remained the same.

Up and coming after this will be Revells' new HE-111P when It finally hits the shelves and I do hope that to continue the series they will have a go at the Dornier Do-17 in 1/32 then the Luftwaffe builders will have the 3 principle bombers in 1/32. This could also please the Dio builders out there who do 1/35 / 1/32 stuff. Not really Much difference between the scales but a HE111 undergoing maintainance and being readied for a bombing mission could be a food one to have a go at.

Anyone out there feel up to having a go at doing one of the HE-111Z dual jobs in 1/32?

James

James

Looking great thus far, is this an A-1 or A-4?

snapdragonxxx

Being one of those builders who gets home, opens the box, picks up the instructions and then spends an hour on the loo reading them until the legs go numb and you need a couple of firemen and a paramedic with lifting tackle to help you

OK, seriously made me laugh out loud.

Ives

Hi Chaps

Following on the discussion Here are some photos of the fuselage and wing joints. As I said earlier this kit is better engineered than people think and give credit for despite flash appearing on parts.

As you can see the dry fit of the wing root and wing is more or less the best fit I have ever seen!

Haveing the models on show in my room does come in handy, especially when we have a room inspection. I only have 15 months left in the Army anyway. By this time next year i will be packing my room up and moving it back. Just enough time to finish the 3 builds i have commited to GB's and then i got alot of Dio's to catch up on. Plus i got the issue of moving it all home. So trying not to do to many kits. But thats a nice idea.

thanks for the comments folks.

The wings attach to the fuselage in this kit with a slot and tab with also two spars to take the weight.

Despite my earlier comments this kit is very well engineered and does go together very well. you could have problems with the engine nacelles and the undercart area, but the wings and wing root..... even with a rough dry fit of the parts with some masking tape it is very much a tight fit with no gaps at all apart from where the flaps join the fuselage - but there is meant to be one there and they are equal on both sides.

I do like to build the wings first if I can, doogs. For me it is an easy way to get into a kit and it also gives me a chance to evaluate the actual kit engineering on the joints and seems side. It also get the largeer plastic parts out of the way until needed and I actually feel that I have done and achieved something rather than messing around with the very small parts at the beginning with brushes and stuff.

I find that the wings, tailplane ( if seperate) elevators etc can be put together at the very beginning and given a base protecting colour coat and it looks like you actually have done quite a bit.

Hey, Bish, I served in the army for a very long time and asked to display the models I built in the Officers and NCO's mess so long as they were looked at and not touched. I didn't really have any problems. Prooved to be quite a draw at mess functions etc. Give it a try and then you can have a bash at these large scale stuff

I have the main fuselage components and wings dry fitted with tape. I'll photograph and post them tomorrow

James

DoogsATX

Looking good so far! Painting the wings before attaching would terrify me, but I'm not familiar enough with the Ju 88 to know how the wings attach. I just know, if it were me, that'd be pretty much the fastest way to ensure a terrible wingroot gap!

Bish:

I only plan on getting a limited number of 32nd kits

 

Ha - good luck! That's what I said until I started building a few. 

ye your probably right. I haven't started building any yet as i don't have the space to display them. Once i am out the army and have my own man cave at home, then i will start on one. But my first love when it comes to aircraftt is 72nd Dio's. I don't see the 32nd over takeing that.

Before i built my Hase 72nd B-24 last year i had read a review where the guy painted the wings and fuselage before joining them. I thought that was a good idea untill i started building. Even thought the wings slot slightly into the fuselage i had a similar concern to you, so i attached before painting, and it worked out fine.

Looking good so far! Painting the wings before attaching would terrify me, but I'm not familiar enough with the Ju 88 to know how the wings attach. I just know, if it were me, that'd be pretty much the fastest way to ensure a terrible wingroot gap!

Bish

I only plan on getting a limited number of 32nd kits

Ha - good luck! That's what I said until I started building a few. 

Looks like a great start James. (I'd love to get into some 1/32 someday - just no room for them where I am right now! ) Do you always finish the wings separately from the fuselage, or is this a special case for the large model?

Thanks snap, and ye, i will deffinatly have a look at that. I plan on getting the CH 109E next, then a Trump 262. Then it will be the 88. I think the 111 will complete my 32nd collection. Just got to start building one.

Thanks for the comments Bish

According to RoG website the size of this beastie is

if you are interested you can also download the instruction manual here

http://www.revell.de/index.php?id=210&KGKANR=0&KGKOGP=10&KGSCHL=24&L=1&page=8&sort=0&nc=1&searchactive=&q=&SWO=&ARMAS4=&PHPSESSID=c1ad4cac6cf9439947605358081de16a&KZSLPG=&offset=61&cmd=show&ARARTN=04728&sp=1

James

I only plan on getting a limited number of 32nd kits, all German. But thios and the 111 are on my to buy list. I am surp[rised to hear your comments about the kit, i thought this was a brand new kit and so thought it would be flash free. But then again, for the price of a 32nd kit of this size, guess can't complain to much.

Looking good so far. Sensable approach to paint the wings before fitting. What would you size the size of this is completed, at a guess.

OK chaps. Here we go!

I am aiming to actually complete this just as Revell release their 1/32 HE- 111. No promises really, but I do really want that on my bench!

My first attempt at this kit was not very good. The reasons for this was

1. It was brand new on the market, I was the first to pick up mine from my LHS and was really excited.
2. At this time I was just beginning to sort of recover from 2 major heart attacks and numerous heart failures. Not a very good time to get excited and stressed out over model building.
3. My discipline and patience was more or less non-existant - Hey ! was relieved just to wake up on a morning!
4. I just rushed this kit and really made a mess of it. basically I just slapped it together without any thought and spoiled it becaue I was very ill and having to adjust to a whole new lifestyle was not making things easy and this kit drew out my frustrations and the very wonky result showed.

Really this kit doesn't deserve this treatment. There is much detail to be done and added. I am not sure abut the moulds the Revell use but in todays market flash on parts is very rare for new kits and I am suprised to see some on parts in this kit. Maybe it is the type of plastic revell use ( it does seem soft).

Despite this, much kudos goes to Revell of Germany to putting this JU-88 on the market in 1/32 scale and giving we modellers a challenge and a chance to build an iconic bomber in large scale. I wonder how many are looking forwards to the HE-111 too!

Having had this kit on my remake list I decided to get the kit again ( "you building up a squadron of these things?") and Eduards BIGED set and have another bash at it!

THE START

Being one of those builders who gets home, opens the box, picks up the instructions and then spends an hour on the loo reading them until the legs go numb and you need a couple of firemen and a paramedic with lifting tackle to help you I though that putting the wings together and giving them a lick of paint would be a nice start.

Out came the paints - RLM02, 65v.1, 70 & 71.

The underside still needs another coat of paint or so and some more parts and decals, but photographed in bright daylight and strong sunshine you can see the correct period colour - RLM65.1 - Vallejo model colour 70906

The upperside splinter pattern. This is RLM 70 & RLM 71. This does need another thin coat of these colours and remasking. Paint matched to Vallejo Model Colour 70892 and 70897 and is a 100% match.

I decided to move on to the interior. This is the radio panel painted up in RLM 02 & RLM 66. Eduards interior set has been used on the fronts of the various comms gear and is actually the right field grey (not RLM 66) for these types of sets. There are still a few more bits to stick on to this yet.

Bomb aimers position

Some RLM 02 paint patching and parts to add still to this one, but extra detail for the bomb sight comes in eduards interior set for this along with an etched part which tries to simulate a pad for the crew member to rest on, This I painted in 70984 flat brown

Instrument panel for the pilot. the detail moulded on this was filed off so Eduards detail set parts could be used. As I remember I had a devil of a job trying to fix this part in on my first JU88 and eventually gave up - lets hope that this time I get it right!

Start of detailing for the right side of the cockpit wall. Many eduard details and panels are to be added yet and parts to still be painted but you can see how this detail set along with RLM 02 and RLM 66 is already changing the part. I have left some of the sprue on for handling and steadying. It is no real problem to remove when the part is finished.

Comments welcome

James

Deffinatly one to watch. Will look forward to seeing this come together.