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1/48 B-25 Group Build! All Invited to Join!

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, January 3, 2012 4:08 PM

No sweat, Shipper..

Handsome Rob

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/6609807817_7517aa8ba8_m.jpg

Natural Metal it is...now I am thinking after market decals....any recommendations?

Yupper, that's th' stuff...

As for AM decals, I dunno.. I don't have any prferences, and generally, I build aircraft with spurious markings and serials, so the Rivet Counters can't critique my build by telling me that "Jersey Bounce had a nine-man crew at the time-period you modeled your B-17 in, it only had one waist gunner.  You've added the name of the right-waist gunner that no longer was assigned to any 479th B-17s...:".

I make up my own serials and squadron codes, often putting mine and folks I know names on the canopy rails and fuselages, and make my own names up to go with the nose art..   Ain't historical, but it's fun, lol..

 

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  • From: Chapin, South Carolina
Posted by Shipwreck on Tuesday, January 3, 2012 3:11 PM

Thanks for the response, Hans. It sounds like a winner to me. I will try to buy some tomorrow!

On the Bench:

Revell 1/96 USS Constitution - rigging

Revell 1/48 B-1B Lancer Prep and research

Trumpeter 1/350 USS Hornet CV-8 Prep and research

 

 

 

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, January 3, 2012 2:25 PM

No I don't decant.. I shoot right from the rattle-can...  But make sure you practice with it.. I can't really describe how I do it by typing, and I don't have any way to make a video... Basically, I just make ordinary asses that one would do with a rattle-can, although the Krylon nozzle is one that will allow you to change the spray-pattern, like from a vertical to a horizontal "fan"...

It's an 8 oz. can, and I've done two P-51s, a B-17, an F-84, and two P-38s with the same can, still have about a third of it left, according to my calibrated arm...

Should be able to do a B-29 and as many single-engine fighters as you want, as long as you only want five or six...Wink

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  • From: Chapin, South Carolina
Posted by Shipwreck on Tuesday, January 3, 2012 1:13 PM

Hans von Hammer

Yeah, it's good stuff.. "Krylon Premium Silver Foil Metallic" is the name...  About 6 bucks for an 8-oz can, but it goes a LONG way...

Hans, I have a Revell B-29 in my future, and am starting to think about NMF. How are you using the Krylon? Do you decant it? And, how far does it go; a couple of 1/48 fighter plan kits?

On the Bench:

Revell 1/96 USS Constitution - rigging

Revell 1/48 B-1B Lancer Prep and research

Trumpeter 1/350 USS Hornet CV-8 Prep and research

 

 

 

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  • From: Chino Valley, AZ
Posted by Handsome Rob on Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:22 PM

Natural Metal it is...now I am thinking after market decals....any recommendations?

On the Bench: , Tamiya 1/48 Corsair Birdcage, Revell B-25J, Tamiya 1/48 Spitfire Mk. I

Up next: Revell 1/48 A-6 Intruder

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, December 31, 2011 2:23 PM

Yeah, it's good stuff.. "Krylon Premium Silver Foil Metallic" is the name...  About 6 bucks for an 8-oz can, but it goes a LONG way...

Just be sure to give it a good 48 hours to fully cure before you handle it, and make sure it doesn't rub off on your fingers by spraying a test-piece after you get done painting.. When you can handle the test-piece without marring the surface or getting metallic on your fingers, your model's paint is cured...

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  • From: Chino Valley, AZ
Posted by Handsome Rob on Saturday, December 31, 2011 10:23 AM

I am probably going to do "Juanty Jo" since it is not MF and I want to try some chipping techniques.  I just got back into scale modeling after a 7 year hiatus so I plan on keeping it simple until I can get some of the more advanced skills.  Although I saw a post you wrote someone about a craylon rattle can for NMF and I am dying to try that!  So to answer your question....I don't know what the final paint scheme will be Smile

On the Bench: , Tamiya 1/48 Corsair Birdcage, Revell B-25J, Tamiya 1/48 Spitfire Mk. I

Up next: Revell 1/48 A-6 Intruder

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, December 30, 2011 9:52 PM

Good work so far, Rob..  Any thoughts yet on which final paint-scheme?

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  • From: Chino Valley, AZ
Posted by Handsome Rob on Friday, December 30, 2011 7:45 PM

Here are a couple of shots of the cockpit I finished tonight.  I like the way it looks inside the fuselage.

Above is the fuselage after a wash of burnt sienna and a dry brush of aluminum.  I was generous in my dry brush because I wanted to create more light in that dark air frame once it is closed up.

 

On the Bench: , Tamiya 1/48 Corsair Birdcage, Revell B-25J, Tamiya 1/48 Spitfire Mk. I

Up next: Revell 1/48 A-6 Intruder

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  • From: Chino Valley, AZ
Posted by Handsome Rob on Friday, December 30, 2011 4:13 PM

I just started a B-25J last week so count me in...I will go snap some pics of my progress and post them a little later.  I will be building the Revell B-25J OOB.

 

On the Bench: , Tamiya 1/48 Corsair Birdcage, Revell B-25J, Tamiya 1/48 Spitfire Mk. I

Up next: Revell 1/48 A-6 Intruder

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  • From: USA California
Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, December 27, 2011 9:43 PM

Gotta mark this group for when I start my Mitchel in the spring Big Smile Way to go Hans starting this group, err thread, or well, yeah Yes

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, December 12, 2011 8:15 AM

Bilgerat

By deeper, do you mean longer or the belly hangs lower?Stick out tongue

 

Lower...

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, December 12, 2011 8:15 AM

Yeah, I think I got one around here..

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Posted by Bilgerat on Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:35 AM

Does any one have a set of the Accurate Miniatures decal sheet for the Doolittle B-25 that they could scan and send to me?

 

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Posted by Bilgerat on Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:28 AM

 

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Posted by Bilgerat on Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:12 AM

So yesterday I cut the tail section from the rear of the elevators,back,  at a 75 degree angle from the perpendicular to accommodate the glass dome tail section of the "B". Now when I look at the fusalage from the rear, it looks kind of like a square hole. My question is; was the "B" more rounded at the point where the glass meets the frame work?

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  • From: Chapin, South Carolina
Posted by Shipwreck on Thursday, December 8, 2011 6:44 PM

According to B-25 Mitchell in detail by Bert Kinzey, starting with the "H" variant the fuselage was 7 inches deeper. According to Kinzey, this was done to accommodate the new Bell turret. The "H" and "J" variants have a distinctive greenhouse on their tails.

On the Bench:

Revell 1/96 USS Constitution - rigging

Revell 1/48 B-1B Lancer Prep and research

Trumpeter 1/350 USS Hornet CV-8 Prep and research

 

 

 

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Posted by Bilgerat on Thursday, December 8, 2011 4:54 PM

By deeper, do you mean longer or the belly hangs lower?Stick out tongue

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, December 8, 2011 1:51 PM

Don't forget that the J also had a deeper rear fuselage...

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Posted by Bilgerat on Wednesday, December 7, 2011 4:03 PM

Ok, so I started cutting and grinding the fuselage ,wings and engine cowls of the "J" to look like a"B". I like to take the road less traveled I guess. Does any one have a good scale drawing of a "B" or can tell me the dimensions of the small windows on the sides of the fuselage? I hope to have some photos up tomorrow night.

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  • From: Chapin, South Carolina
Posted by Shipwreck on Tuesday, December 6, 2011 5:54 PM

There was a documentary at the Lake Murray Visitors Center; but I was not able to get a copy of it. If my memory serves me, it was not that helpful. If you are interested in photos; Google Lake Murray B-25 and you will be busy for awhile.

I have a 1/72 AMT B-25C in my stash that is destined for a diorama sometime in the distant future. I vision is to depict it on the bed of Lake Murray. It was 150 feet below the surface and got twisted up a little, lost an engine. and a vertical stabilizer. It may take a couple of AMT kits before I can get it bent correctly!

On the Bench:

Revell 1/96 USS Constitution - rigging

Revell 1/48 B-1B Lancer Prep and research

Trumpeter 1/350 USS Hornet CV-8 Prep and research

 

 

 

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  • From: Southern New Jersey
Posted by troublemaker66 on Tuesday, December 6, 2011 4:00 PM

Shipwreck

We have a 1/72 Hornet with a deck full of Doolittle B-25's in the SC State Museum. It is BIG! During the war they trained B-25 crews out of Columbia airport. One was recoved, a B-25C, from Lake Murray a couple of years ago.

Did they do a documentary on that recovery? I remember watching them recover a "C" with the bottom turret still there. They pulled it up on the beach and cleaned her out...full of mud...and discovered tons of goodies inside.

Len Pytlewski

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, December 6, 2011 10:06 AM

Were the fixed 50's in the nose suspended with cables or do I have to scratch build an assembly to hold the guns and the auto loader eqt?

This is about the best I could find.. The guns are mounted along the wall of the nose with the ammo cans located in the center. A four-gun ship would be about the same set-up, but obviously you'd leave out the Norden and  bomb-panel on the left side-wall..

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  • From: Chapin, South Carolina
Posted by Shipwreck on Tuesday, December 6, 2011 9:10 AM

We have a 1/72 Hornet with a deck full of Doolittle B-25's in the SC State Museum. It is BIG! During the war they trained B-25 crews out of Columbia airport. One was recoved, a B-25C, from Lake Murray a couple of years ago.

On the Bench:

Revell 1/96 USS Constitution - rigging

Revell 1/48 B-1B Lancer Prep and research

Trumpeter 1/350 USS Hornet CV-8 Prep and research

 

 

 

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Posted by Bilgerat on Tuesday, December 6, 2011 3:55 AM

I have a workshop in my back yard for assembly purposes but I rent space at an indoor storage facility not far from where I live. I used to build in the basement, but my wife was getting tired of the clutter.lol

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Monday, December 5, 2011 8:23 PM

Bilgerat

I only build for myself, but never turn down an opportunity to help others. Right now I am just finishing up an eight foot Destroyer and a twelve foot cruiser. All my models are transported in a construction trailer. The Hornet will be moved in three sections. I will also be detailing the hanger decks with carrier aircraft.

OK...Just curious, what do you do with these monstrous builds when you`re done? Do you display them somewhere? I build mostly 1:48 aircraft and have trouble finding room for some of them so I was just wondering what you do with the completed models.

Len Pytlewski

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Posted by Bilgerat on Monday, December 5, 2011 8:02 PM

I only build for myself, but never turn down an opportunity to help others. Right now I am just finishing up an eight foot Destroyer and a twelve foot cruiser. All my models are transported in a construction trailer. The Hornet will be moved in three sections. I will also be detailing the hanger decks with carrier aircraft.

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  • From: Southern New Jersey
Posted by troublemaker66 on Monday, December 5, 2011 6:43 PM

A 17` Hornet model, eh?  Maybe if you scratchbuild some cushions it could double as a couch...Big Smile

All kidding aside, the biggest carrier model I`ve seen was a 1:72 scratchbuilt Essex class. Is this being built for someone or just for yourself?  If I had the room to do it I`d surely give it a shot. Good luck.

Len

Len Pytlewski

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Posted by Bilgerat on Monday, December 5, 2011 5:49 PM

Thanks Shipwreck, I still have all my reference material from my 1/6 scale B-25 so I think I will have to make my own conversion kits. I will post photos as I progress and you folks can steer me in the right direction.Big Smile

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