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  • From: Brisbane Australia
Posted by ChrisJH666 on Friday, February 6, 2004 3:05 PM
For those of you asking how many P38's survive, Flypast magazine listed 3x P38F, 2x P38G, 1x P38H, 5x P38J, 3x P38M, 1x P38L, and 13x F5G (the dedicated photo recce version of the P38), a grand total of 28

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 2, 2004 10:40 AM
I visited the Glacier Girl hangar at Middlesboro during a vacation in 1998. (The real focus of the trip was the Cumberland Gap, Monticello, and Richmond--finding GG was pure serendipity.) The restoration was pretty far along even at that point, but the place was pretty dead--I was the only visitor there the whole time. They let you walk all around the plane, the guys working on it took the time to stop and explain things. At the end, I wanted to do my bit, so of course I bought a copy of the book about the "Lost Squadron's" recovery, etc., The best part was when the project manager, Bob Carlin (sp?), and the staff autographed the book for me. Just as I left, an older fellow arrived--obviously somebody who knew the operation inside and out. I later realized that it was Roy Shoffner (sp? again), who is the man with the money behind the whole operation.

An amazing, completely unplanned moment. Later that evening, I slightly marred the spell by having dinner at a very bad "Chinese" restaurant, which was redeemed by a late-night walk around the (very quiet) town of Cumberland Gap.
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  • From: West of the rock and east of the hard place!
Posted by murph on Monday, February 2, 2004 2:31 AM
check out www.warbirdalley.com

Click on the aircraft link on the left side then go to fighters and choose P-38 Lightning. When the P-38 page comes up, there's a link to Glacier Girl at the bottom of that page with some grainy but interesting home video footage of her maiden flight at an airshow after her restoration. Kinda neat.

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Posted by DaveB.inVa on Sunday, February 1, 2004 11:15 PM
The different letters are added as refinement and technology progresses. So an B model is more advanced than an A. This isnt always the case however as letters can denote completley different aircraft configurations or different uses.

Heres a great site on the technical aspects of the P-38. Click on each subtype and it will give a detailed description of the modifications from the previous model and other differences.

http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p38.html
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 1, 2004 9:56 PM
I normally don't do airplanes, but after seeing that special on the History channel, i want to build one!!!

What do the different letters mean??? L J FG what is different on the planes??? what makes them a L G J s, and so on????
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 1, 2004 5:31 PM
I also saw the special about the Aleutian recovery and restoration. An excellent piece of work, kudos to all those who participated.
Bruce
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 1, 2004 5:13 PM
tempestjohnny,
Actually not all of the P-38's out there are L's, J's or F's as in the case with Glacier Girl.
My squadron assisted in the recovery of a P-38G from the Aleution Islands a few years ago. We flew two HH-60G's and an HC-130 out to the Kiska Island area. We recovered the wreckage and the folks at Elmendorf AFB restored her. She is the ONLY P-38G in existance today.



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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 1, 2004 3:49 PM
I'm going to check out that program also.....I was totally intrigued after reading about her in flight journal!!
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  • From: Naples, FL
Posted by tempestjohnny on Sunday, February 1, 2004 2:54 PM
GLACIER GIRL is the only P-38F in existance today flying or otherwise. All others are P-38J's or L's I read the article in Air & Space and watched the DISC Ch special on the finding removing and restoration of Glacier Girl from the Greenland Ice. If you haven't seen this program find it and watch it ----AMAZING----- JOHN

 

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Posted by DaveB.inVa on Sunday, February 1, 2004 1:13 PM
Ive actually been to Middlesboro Ky to see Glacier Girl! Its very awesome. In the hangar they have lots of stuff you can buy, including a lot of P-38 models. There was a case full of them, mostly different versions like a droop snoot but there was one 1/48 P-38 with Glacier Girl decals on it. They didnt have any for sale there so it may have been a custom job. Go to www.thelostsquadron.com and check it out. They might be able to provide you with some details. If not you could always get a pic of the nose art and have the decals made. It shouldnt be too hard as its just the words "Glacier Girl" in light blue with a white border.
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Posted by gregers on Sunday, February 1, 2004 1:11 PM
there is a feature on Glacier Girl in this months Flypast mag.
Greg
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Posted by stinger on Sunday, February 1, 2004 1:05 PM
Thanks Tim

That is a great site.

Someone else here in the A/C forum needs pics of a Skyraider. Maybe that link could help him out.

stinger

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  • From: Lafayette, LA
Posted by Melgyver on Sunday, February 1, 2004 12:28 PM
Good site Tim! Thanks! I was working at the Lafayette Airport when the P-38 Scatterbrain Kid augered in. They mistakenly listed the owner Revis Sirmon as killed in the crash but it was his good friend Harper that was flying it and was killed. I saw it fly many a time and those twin Allison V-12's sure sounded sweet. Looks like only 4 P-38's in airworthy condition.

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Mel

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  • From: Winsted CT
Posted by jimz66 on Sunday, February 1, 2004 12:28 PM
Too bad they couldn't save the B-17's. That would have been something.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 1, 2004 10:56 AM
Anyone know how many P-38's are still fying now (or even exist)?


Stinger, check out this site


http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/registry/index.html

Tim Landers
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  • From: USA
Posted by mark956 on Sunday, February 1, 2004 10:37 AM
I watched to show on the History Channel. I believe it was called the lost squadron.
mark956
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Posted by stinger on Sunday, February 1, 2004 10:28 AM
Haven't seen the AirSpaceMag article yet, but Flight Journal did one on it in last months (Feb. 2004) issue.

If anyone saw the Discovery (I think) Channels program, you saw what it took to retrieve it.

Quite an undertaking and amazing that they ever got it flying again.

Anyone know how many P-38's are still fying now (or even exist)?

stinger

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  • From: Newport News VA
Posted by Buddho on Sunday, February 1, 2004 10:19 AM
It's a pretty plane and amazing how they retrieved and refurbished it to flying condition.

Dan

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  • From: Winsted CT
Glacier Girl
Posted by jimz66 on Sunday, February 1, 2004 10:13 AM
Anyone see the Air and Space magazine this week with the Glacier Girl special?
I was wondering if anyone makes 1/48 scale decals for her anyone out ther know?
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