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  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Harrisburg, PA
Weathering Aircraft...
Posted by Lufbery on Thursday, February 5, 2004 12:57 PM
Hi all,

I've been doing research and finding photos of the F-4 Phantoms from VMFA-333 that flew during their 1972-73 cruise on the U.S.S. America. One of the things that I noticed was that the planes are pretty darned clean! So clean that the panel lines are nearly invisible at normal viewing distances. In contrast, an F-14 I saw at the Frederick, MD air show a few years ago was pretty dirty.

So what gives? I suspect two answers, but I'd like to read what others have to post.

1) The tactical paint scheme is harder to take care of than the hi-viz schemes of the '70s and '80s. I think it is flatter and more likely to pick up dirt.

2) Budget cuts starting in the early '90s (right after Desert Storm) meant that less time was spent cleaning the planes.

What do you guys and gals think?

Regards,

-Drew

Build what you like; like what you build.

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    December 2003
  • From: 37deg 40.13' N 95deg 29.10'W
Posted by scottrc on Thursday, February 5, 2004 1:53 PM
Your #1 is correct.
The low-viz paint was a pain to keep clean vs the glossy grey and white. I was around the F14, A7, A6 and F18s in the late 80s and they were not clear coated. The paint finish was like 600 grit sandpaper and collected stack grime, non-skid residue, and exaust burns like metal to a magnet. Crew cheifs were always washing and polishing those planes, but after a while, they just gave up and would give them just a desalting wash down.

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    July 2003
  • From: Piedmont Triad, NC (USA)
Posted by oldhooker on Thursday, February 5, 2004 2:10 PM
Yeah, that's right on the nail! Also.... the rough finish don't reflect radar signals near as well as the glossy finishes.

Take care,
Frank.

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Harrisburg, PA
Posted by Lufbery on Thursday, February 5, 2004 2:29 PM
Thanks, guys.

Regards,

-Drew

Build what you like; like what you build.

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    December 2002
  • From: Boise ID
Posted by chasblake99 on Thursday, February 5, 2004 2:31 PM
The gloss finishes of the 60's and 70's were easy to clean (i.e. wipe off) verses the scrubbing needed to get the grunge off the newer paint types. Working on F-4 & F-15's, in the 80's we where cleaning them so much that the paint was loosing it's rough finish and the powers that be made us stop but still wanted clean looking aircraft so we ended up painting a lot.
Charles  NKAWTG (My KC-135R at RAF Fairfird during Allied Force) Pilots without crew chiefs are nothing but pedestrians with nice sunglasses and a cool jacket. Crew Chiefs RULE!
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