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  • Member since
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  • From: Newnan, GA
Posted by benzdoc on Saturday, February 14, 2004 6:24 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Swanny

Yes, Benzdoc. I decant the paint first with a drinking straw then use my airbrush to apply it.


a STRAW! The light bulb just came on. Big Smile [:D] I've always sprayed from the can to a small bottle, but the results were, well as you know, a mess.

Thanks for the great tip Swanny!
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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Saturday, February 14, 2004 1:03 PM
Thanks for the great tips Matt.
I would never had thought that a basecoat of black would make the NMF finish have a deeper "glow" as you mentioned. That's the great thing about this forum, there are some great tips here from you veterans. Thumbs Up [tup]

Mike

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Posted by 72cuda on Saturday, February 14, 2004 12:13 PM
Swanny looking good, now gotta see her in her true form when finished

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Posted by mandrake on Friday, February 13, 2004 6:55 PM
WOW Swanny you are the master! thanks for the explanation, keep up with the good work!

my best regards
Me.
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Posted by Swanny on Friday, February 13, 2004 11:44 AM
Not sure about the Komet comparison, will have to dig one out of the stash and see how it measures up.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 13, 2004 10:41 AM
Looking good, Swanny. Seems like Dr. Alexander Lippisch had an influence on the designers at De Havilland. I had only seen this aircraft on video - from above, the resemblance to the Me 163 Komet is remarkable ! Is it about the same size? The wingspan looks like it could be wider than the Komet.
Looking forward to the finished bird.
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  • From: Sandusky Ohio, USA
Posted by Swanny on Friday, February 13, 2004 10:10 AM
Yes, Benzdoc. I decant the paint first with a drinking straw then use my airbrush to apply it.
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Posted by benzdoc on Friday, February 13, 2004 9:21 AM
Swanny, did you transfer the paint from the can and then airbrush it? It looks way to good to come out of the can! Dumb question, I know, but I just had to ask. Big Smile [:D]

Nice job!
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  • From: Sandusky Ohio, USA
Posted by Swanny on Friday, February 13, 2004 6:58 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mandrake

Hey Swanny one (perhaps DumbBlush [:I]) question: why are you using gloss black as a primer? shouldnt you be using something like white or gray?? i think you are planning to paint that bird on a silver scheme right? if so then i would plan to use white primer instead of black, can you explain me please??

thanks in advance....
and let me tell you YOU ARE THE MAN!! Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]
CONGRATS!

my very best regards
Hector.

Economics and appearance. The color that you use as a primer will influence the final appearance of your topcoat. This is why in automotive paint you have red primer as well as varying shades of gray. When applying a NMF finish a black primer will give it a deeper 'glow' to the final color. I could have used white but it would result is a more silvery finish and I want an aluminum finish. Also, the Krylon Gloss black that I am using ($2.68 for 11 ounce rattle can) is actually a lacquer-based paint so it will etch the plastic for me and provide a solid base for the Alclad lacquer. Some people like to use acrylics for lacquer primer but there is always a chance that the lacquer will react with it and destroy your finish - I've seen it happen. And finally, with this solid black primer coat which used about 1 ounce from that rattle can which equals a total cost of $0.24 I will need only about a third of a jar of Alclad - that jar cost nearly $7.00 so my final coat cost will equal about $2.33 totaling $2.57 in paint. If I did not use the primer I would probably expend the entire bottle of Alclad to get a solid finish color on this model. Sorry I ran on so long but I hope this answered your question.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 13, 2004 2:39 AM
on the Alclad bottles they suggest that you use gloss black or white car paint as a primer for aluminium.
It stops the alclad from etching the plastic and for some reason the alu finish looks better over black
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 13, 2004 2:09 AM
Awesome Swanny, glad to see you got the kinks worked out of that bird. Can't wait to see that NMF!
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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, February 12, 2004 10:29 PM
definitely looking good swanny.

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  • From: Mexico
Posted by mandrake on Thursday, February 12, 2004 10:17 PM
Hey Swanny one (perhaps DumbBlush [:I]) question: why are you using gloss black as a primer? shouldnt you be using something like white or gray?? i think you are planning to paint that bird on a silver scheme right? if so then i would plan to use white primer instead of black, can you explain me please??

thanks in advance....
and let me tell you YOU ARE THE MAN!! Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]
CONGRATS!

my very best regards
Hector.
Thanks! My Best Regards Hector Reymundo
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  • From: Third rock from the sun.
Posted by Woody on Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:39 PM
That it does!

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  • From: Sandusky Ohio, USA
A black jet ...
Posted by Swanny on Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:22 PM
My resin DH-108 Swallow has gotten a good coat of black primer and will get Alclad this weekend. Looks pretty cool all black.

Big Smile [:D]
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