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Using metal tubing for gun barrels
Posted by Sadpoker 34 on Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:25 PM

I am looking into replacing the gun barrels on Revell's P-47N in 1/48 scale. I was wondering what is the best tubing to use (i.e. brass, aluminum or stainless steel needles) and what size. Thanks.

  • Member since
    January 2007
Posted by Gigatron on Thursday, July 25, 2013 3:15 PM

Most people use hypodermic steel tubing.  I used to get mine from Small Parts, Inc., but they've been absorbed by Amazon http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=stainless+hypodermic+tubing&tag=googhydr-20&index=industrial&hvadid=12045723804&hvpos=1s5&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8866821911938755046&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_9f8euz8p80_b

 

Way back when, a member here, made a huge conversion chart that listed the conversion of standard barrel sizes to hypodermic tubing sizes.  If you do a search, it may have been archived.  Or, you can look up the barrel dimensions, and then just divide by the scale of the kit you're working on, and find the nearest-sized tube.

 

-Fred

 

  • Member since
    March 2010
  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Thursday, July 25, 2013 3:18 PM

Brass is the easiest to work with and to cut. As far as size I just hold up a piece of tube to the kit barrel and see what looks right. I'd say have some .5, .7, and 1mm diam. on hand.

 

 

  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Cameron, Texas
Posted by Texgunner on Thursday, July 25, 2013 5:14 PM

This may help:

HYPODERMIC TUBING CONVERSION TO SCALE MODEL GUNS/CANNONS


Caliber- Gauge- True tube I.D.- Scale I.D. Part #

1/72 Scale

pitot- 25, 31- HTX-25R, HTX-31R Sleeved

0.30- 33- 0.00400 0.00417 HTX-33R

0.50- 29- 0.00700 0.00694 HTX-29R

20 mm- 26- 0.01000 0.01094 HTX-26R

25 mm- 23- 0.01300 0.01367 HTX-23R

30 mm- 22- 0.01600 0.01640 HTX-22R

1/48 scale

pitot- 21, 25, 31 HTX-21R, HTX-25R, HTX-31R Sleeved

0.30- 30 0.00600 0.00625 HTX-30R

0.50- 26 0.01000 0.01042 HTX-26R

20 mm- 22 0.01600 0.01640 HTX-22R

25 mm- 21 0.02000 0.02051 HTX-21R

30 mm- 20T, 20 0.026, 0.023 0.02461 HTX-20R THIN WALL= HTX-20T

1/35 scale


0.30- 27 0.00800 0.00857 HTX-27R

0.50- 23 0.01300 0.01429 HTX-23R

20 mm- 20 0.02300 0.02250 HTX-20R

25 mm- 19 0.02700 0.02812 HTX-19R

30 mm- N/S 0.03800 0.03375 HTX-051R not standard gauge

1/32 scale


pitot 22, 28 HTX-22R, HTX-28R Sleeved

0.30- 26 0.01000 0.00938 HTX-26R

0.50- 27 0.01600 0.01563 HTX-22R

20 mm- 21-1/2 0.02300 0.02461 HTX-21-1/2R

25 mm- 18 0.03300 0.03076 HTX-18R

30 mm- N/S 0.03800 0.03691 HTX-051R not standard gauge


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  • Member since
    September 2006
  • From: Bethlehem PA
Posted by the Baron on Friday, July 26, 2013 12:06 PM

I use both brass and steel tubing.  I've bought steel tubing online from McMaster-Carr (http://www.mcmaster.com/#), after reading this article at Aircraft Resource Center:

http://www.arcair.com/tnt1/001-100/TNT024-SS-Tubing/00.shtm

Brass is easier to cut, since it's softer, but I use my Dremel with a diamond cutting wheel to cut either material, to avoid compressing the stock.

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  • Member since
    April 2013
  • From: Minnesota City, Minnesota, U.S.A.
Posted by FlyItLikeYouStoleIt on Sunday, July 28, 2013 10:30 PM

Likewise, I just compare it to kit guns or just use what looks right. As for my source, our local ACE Hardware is also a model shop complete with stodgy old codger that oversees the model inventory. Right in the isle amongst the model stuff, he has a display of metal tubing (brass, aluminum, steel) in every imaginable size. And they're only pennies each.

Bill.

On the bench:  Lindberg 1/32 scale 1934 Ford Coupe and a few rescue projects.

In queue:  Tamiya 1/35 Quad Tractor or a scratch build project.

  • Member since
    May 2012
Posted by Alley Cat on Sunday, July 28, 2013 10:55 PM

An easier but more expensive way is to use replacement barrels by the Czeck company Master and carried by Ultracast.  Look here www.ultracast.ca/.../default.htm

  • Member since
    February 2011
  • From: Bent River, IA
Posted by Reasoned on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 7:27 PM

Nathan T

Brass is the easiest to work with and to cut. As far as size I just hold up a piece of tube to the kit barrel and see what looks right. I'd say have some .5, .7, and 1mm diam. on hand.

Ditto

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  • Member since
    January 2013
Posted by Raceguy on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:29 PM

Hey FlyItLikeYouStoleIt. I'm in the Dayton area. Which store has the model section you mentioned?

Thanks

Ed

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