Started a thread in General Discussion so as to not hijack this any further.  Thanks for the idea.

Art

Gold, I think we need a good primer on ECM pods. Most models of just about any of the pods give us one version,,,,,,,and don't even mention the variations.

A really good example of the differences that can look almost the same from a distance is Berny's old chart posted in a Phantom build thread on here.

Many modelers wind up thinking that "company A got it wrong" when in reality, they might have just picked a diffrent sub-type of the pod.  (-131s are good for different visual appearance also)

Rex

Tarn-  Thanks for that.  Our 4 boxes of gear was in the front left side of the camera bay, so never looked back to see what the glass configuration was, and of course being about 20 didn't care either.......but do have two rolls of slides somewhere of a couple in the revetments showing the color scheme and revetment walls.  Never will find those I suppose though.LOL

The pics I have seen of the 119's all look like there is a bulge on the front that hangs down below the "gondola" lower section.  If so that is a later mod, as the 119's in the early to mid 70's were just the 10 inch diameter upper section and the 8 inch lower gondola.  Back then the radomes were 10K each, and the gondola is nothing but circuit cards on edge crossways.  I dropped one on a taxiway when the cradle broke coming back from "fox" area.  Closed the taxiway for close to two hours till we got everything loaded on a trailer and the FOD sweep done.  About 240K damage to said pod since I managed to park the MJ-4 on top of the back third of it.  We only ran a two "can" set at Udorn (73/74) for the ALQ-71's, but at Shaw we ran a three "can" setup (76/76)

I am somewhat puzzled by your description of what camera windows "the C did not have".

That is because there were "Rounded nose" and "Squared off nose" versions in each RF-4 series, depending on which block they were built in. RF-4C had both noses on different serial numbers, so did RF-4E,,,,and even though almost all RF-4B had the "Angular or Squared off noses", the last three had that rounded nose shape that the USAF also used.

The quick way to tell which set of kit nose parts to use is to look for the prism at the bottom of your decal's drawing,,,,,,it that is there, it is a square nose,,,,if there is a larger, smooth window there, that is the rounded nose.

Hope this helps

Rex

Same here. If you need some diagrams of the scheme layout, you can go to cybermodeler.com and look under their reference tab. They have several Phantom camo scheme layouts there.

Thanks for the color #'s, hopefully I will get a hit on the pods and decals or an answer from Micro and Super.  I never got into the e-bay thing........

I don't have the decals or pods you need, but I can help with some info. The SEA scheme #'s are: dark green 34079, med green 34102, tan 30219, grey underside 36622. I think the RF-4C's had another window underneath between the bulge and the nose gear well, from what my references show. Good luck on your project; hope you'll post some pics when you're done!

Went out and got the Hasegawa 1/48 RF4E JASDF kit to backdate to an RF4C (not worrying about the slats or other minor differences)  

IIRC the "C"'s did not have the rear windows under the nose back past the triangular bulge and windows there.  yes or no?

Worked ECM on them at Udorn RTAFB and Shaw AFB, but that was early mid 70's, memory bit fuzzy now.

Looked to aquire  the "tumbleweed" decals since that bird was at Udorn in my time, but looks to be long gone, but have query in.  

Would also like to find the ECM pods, if someone has any running around in their spares box.  Both the ALQ-119 and  ALQ-71.  Worked in the ALQ-71 shop there for most of the tour.  From what I have seen of the resin version of the 71 they missed on it.  Sides are smooth, was 10" diameter, so it looks fat in the pics I have seen.

Drop me a PM if you have and want to get rid of any of the above in decals or pods.

Thanks, Art

=D I'm starring off this thread.

One of my Phavorite planes!

I will add my 2 completed kits. Another phour or phive are in the stash.

Both of these are Hasegawa kits.

F-4F with decals robbed from a Testors/Italeri kit. That kit was not very good, but I liked the decals-and wanted to do this color scheme. Sidewinders from a Hasegawa weapons set

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F-4G "Wild Weasel". This kit was something like 25+ years in the building. I had it mostly finished, with paint and decals for a European "Lizard" paint scheme, then the kit was abandoned for all those years. One day picked up the kit and and decided I really wanted to do a Phantom in SEA markings. Paint and decals were stripped off to be redone. Some parts were missing and the above mentioned Italeri kit was used as a donor for some of those. A nasty crack across one wing had to be repaired as well. Weapons and ECM pod from Hasegawa after market sets.

I want to do more Phantoms and have an RF-4B partially built that kind of stalled, but someday......

Thanks for kicking this back to the top, PJ- always happy to look at some Phabulous Phatoms!

Those are beautiful guys!  

Here's my Monogram F4 I finished earlier this year. As old as it is, it's still a nice kit

Lots of gorgeous Phantoms in these pages

Here's my 1/48  Academy F-4B. It was a joy to build. It has over 300 decals/stencils applied. Eduard belts used and thin wires for wheel bay plumbing.

Old Monogram 1/48 F-4D built back in the mid 80's OOB.

The old Hasegawa 1/48 done back in the early 80's OOB.

Just recently picked up the ProModeler 1/48 F-4E which is really a reboxed Hasegawa. That's on deck to be built.

Hello, I am building a tamiya F-4J and would like to include some support equipment, Where did you find the items in your pictures? My scale is 1/32.

Thanks  

Darn - I'd forgotten that I had two Hasegawa Phantoms in the stash - the RF-4B and an F-4J, both 1/48th. I'm hoping that I can build them to look at least half as good as what I've seen on this thread so far. Just pulled them outa the stash tonight, and ready to start on them, but I just know I need to finish all the ones that you see below first........right?...........I mean, I shouldn't be starting any more before I finish these.....looks I'm addicted......to plastic.........no cure.............Ahhhhhhhh!

Tojo, those are awesome Phantoms! From what I can see, you're being too hard on yourself. They look great!

These guys are probably the oldest builds in my collection,from around 2000-2002.They are from the 1/48 Hasegawa Phantom Series.I built them OOB as my skills were minimal,but overall I think they look okay. Also there are some AWESOME Phantoms on display here !!

Man, those are nice builds, Ish! Thanks for digging them up!

After a 3 year break from the hobby due to working overseas, I managed to spend a few hours of the first day of the 2012 Nats in Orlando photographing all I could. It was a difficult way to shake the dust off the camera, seeing all the superb models you expect to see at a national level event. Hopefully, I had more hits than misses.

RF-4 dio from the 2009 IPMS NCT show.  I cant help but wish I could go back and have a do-over with these shots with my current camera and experience level...

Continuing on, these 3 are from the IPMS North Cental Texas (Dallas metro area) show from 2007 and 2009.

OK, went through my files to see what F-4 models I photographed at shows over the years.  These are from the 2006 IPMS Ft. Worth contest.  That was the first time I've ever photographed models, and it shows... 

:)

http://www.inpayne.com/models/hasf4e.html

I would like to see them.