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Heres a little something to knaw on!
Posted by DrCemento on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 3:05 PM


So there I am- All morning working on re- scribing the panel lines in Hasegawas old 1/72 F6F -3 happy as a clam, and feeling a sense of accomplishment. 2 hours later I ran to the Hobby shop for a couple of colors and walked out with the ARIES detail set for said model - feeling a sense of guilt at having dropped a smoth 30 - spot to save me from having to get real creative with stretched sprue and sheet plastic - The Question? Are these detail sets making us lazy? - Are we losing our skills - I feel like all I've gotta do now is get real trick with my paint and Viola' instant super cool model - Or am I procrastinating - and this whole aftermarket thing is really taking it to the next level? I find myself searching for kits with raised panel lines and the worst cockpits possible - and just to make it really tough -ones that have no aftermarket sets forcing me to really get with it! Whew that was deep! Any Comments?
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Posted by fightnjoe on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 6:25 PM
these aftermarket details allow someone such as myself with little or no skill to put together a model with the accuracy and details that others with much more skill would scratchbuild. personally i think aftermarket details are a godsend and i do appreciate them. sometimes i feel like i cheat a little but as i am not building for competition just for my own satisfaction i guess it all works out in the end.

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Posted by didfaI on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 6:45 PM
Someone once said, "Build what you like, like what you build." Personally, getting all those little things that nobody ever sees, but YOU know their there, seems a little over the top for me. If you're going for judges with magnifying glasses, GREAT! I have a fried who has a single hair brush for putting in EYES for the pilot figures. I've stopped building 1/32's because there's always so much room to put stuff that nobody will ever see unless you have panels and canopies flopping all around. Try to tell someone about the tiny coper wires that you used to simulate engine wiriing! Then watch their eye glaze over. Me, I beleive in the KISS thingy; simple, but accurate.]My 2 cents [2c]My 2 cents [2c]My 2 cents [2c]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 7:44 PM
I love the resin & PE stuff.

I think that its a matter of what brings enjoyment into your build. If scratchbuilding parts is your thing, go for it. I know my limitations for creating parts, so I buy aftermarket items. Also, I do not believe in a "heirarchy" of modelling. A scratchbuilder is not a "better" modeller. Models out of the box are not "worse." Be it out of the box or completely scratchbuilt, a good-looking model is a good-looking model. I find that the more hats I try to wear at once, the worse they fit. I'll let a professional create my detail parts. Experience has taught me that they are more skilled at it than I.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:00 PM
Well said Pix. I do most kits OOB. Sometimes just for a relaxing build I use only the instruction sheet as my reference material. On others I want to really take up a few notches, I go for all the aftermarket stuff I can find. The skills I posses with scratch-building you could write on a pin head. So the AM guys really save my butt on models I want to give to someone such as a vet.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 10:40 PM
I at least buy aftermarket ejection seats for my kits, you just can't beat them. I have the 1/32 CAM cockpit sets for the Tornado and MIG-29 but they sit on the shelf along side the models waiting to be build someday? If Black Box comes out with an F-105G set I will jump on it but I plan on scratch building any needed cockpit details in the future.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 11:24 PM
Pixilater said it best for me.
Bruce
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 26, 2004 12:14 AM
I think PE and Resin, is fun, and adds to the building skills "pallet". I think that it is about using all mediums available to you, to add what you wish. Besides, there's always a few out there correcting the Resin as well.....so even the AM parts aren't perfect, and there will always be something to add yourself.
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Posted by DrCemento on Thursday, February 26, 2004 9:43 AM


All good points guys! - It's one of those things that will probably be debated forever - and in the end the only real answer is to remember why we all do it! Never impose limits on your abilities, though! Theres always room to learn and get better! Man do I know the glazed over eye look!
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Posted by cassibill on Thursday, February 26, 2004 11:55 AM
Take what you can get, and afford, because something can always be improved.

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Posted by Melgyver on Thursday, February 26, 2004 5:09 PM
I hate to spend more money on aftermarket detail kits than the kit itself. I'll spend a few bucks for some seats, wheels or control surfaces and scratchbuild a lot of the detail myself. Too much, but that's my "thing". I think the hardest part of of a model is getting it filled and sanded without losing detail and getting a nice paint job layed down. Then getting the decals and sealer down without silvering or air bubbles. I've "wired" up several 1/48th radials and scratch built a set of "featherless" afterburner cans for an F-15 that I never finished. I still like my "cans" over some of the aftermarket. If you hate tedious scratchbuilding, PE and resin aftermarket kits are a godsend. Then if you have a favorite aircraft you might want to spend some serious bucks to build the ultimate kit. To each his own! Glad we have the "choices" we do "nowdays"! I remember the joy of the first Monogram P-51B and P-47D. Nice detail and no moving parts except the prop and wheels. "We have come a long way, baby!"

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Thursday, February 26, 2004 5:36 PM
I'm right there with Pix on this one.Sign - Ditto [#ditto]Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by ChrisJH666 on Thursday, February 26, 2004 5:52 PM
If you prefer not to use detailing kits there are plenty of aircraft types out there which do not have a popular following and therefore never seem to get any goodies produced for them Personally I rather like some of this detailing stuff, but I don't mind scratchbuilding the odd bits every now and then

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