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Tackling raised panels....again! (A-6 Intruder)

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  • From: USA
Posted by 72cuda on Friday, February 27, 2004 5:21 PM
Hey jimz66;
have you tried to use an exacto knife to pre-scribe the panel lines and then run the scribing tool deepen the panel line and then sand the part, I've been doing this for a long time and I've gotten the best results this way

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  • From: Green Bay, WI USA
Posted by echolmberg on Friday, February 27, 2004 8:40 AM
Hey there Bones!

I've got that same model calling my name down in my workshop. Got some aftermarket decals that are going to look sooooo sharp! Anyway, I personally don't like the thought of having to rescribe. To me it doesn't matter if the kit has raised or recessed panel lines. Even the recessed lines, I feel, seem out of scale even on Tamiya kits. But that's another topic for another time.

Getting back to the topic, I've had some kits with raised lines which got erased after filling and sanding was all done. I would take my scriber and scribe the part of the line which had been sanded away. In my honest opinion, after the model has been painted, weathered and decalled (or is it with one "L"?), you really cannot see where the raised line ends and your scribe work begins. I try to limit how many panel lines are obliterated by using masking tape to protect the areas which do not need sanding. That leaves just a minimal amount of lines which need touch up.

It sounds like you want to do a real bang-up job on this kit (and who wouldn't?) so I thought that maybe this technique might be of help in the interest of time. I've always wanted to try to rescribe lines to see how it works for me. I hope your work turns out great! And don't forget, this is going to your father-in-law so you know he's going to love anything you do for and give to him.

Eric

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  • From: Winsted CT
Posted by jimz66 on Friday, February 27, 2004 8:11 AM
I have six models that I need to rescribe. I just take my time with it and not rush it. I am working on my F-100D from Monogram so I can use it for my NMF Group Build. I just started it yesterday and am probably between 10 and 20 percent done. I am using a pottery tool to scribe with. It has a fine point like a pencil point. It is very sharp and dosen't seam to be deteriating at all so far. Just take your time. I have that A-6E too and that is one that I need to rescribe but I plan to buy that Verlinden set and some decals as my decals are shot. So that one sits and waits. Someday. Good luck with your model for your father-in-law.
Phantoms rule the skies!!!
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  • From: Savannah, GA USA
Posted by Bones-coa on Thursday, February 26, 2004 5:48 PM
Thanks for the help guys. I really want to keep this bird raised if possible. As much as I'd love to scribe it, I just don't have the time or want to try on this one! I do have a kit that I intend on practicing with, but not this one! I think I'll look more into your idea, Matt.

Cuda and scott, thanks for the info on the Revell A-6. Glad to hear it's not as bad as I thought it would be.

I agree, jbatesc6. It does look much better. I have a new Revell 1/48 F-14D with raised panel lines. That'll be my test model! Big Smile [:D]
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  • From: Napa, Ca
Posted by DrCemento on Thursday, February 26, 2004 9:34 AM
Re- scribe them! the look is un-beatable - this may sound like a blatant advert for tamiya and Olfa but the tamiya scribing tool (it's made by olfa) Is the coolest thing going! I hated the raised lines but hated the thought of re-scribing them for years! look up Rodney williams my tools column for some time saving tips - his needle in a vice works very well .... www.largescaleplanes.com under tips. good luck!
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  • From: USA
Posted by 72cuda on Thursday, February 26, 2004 7:59 AM
Hey Bones;
The Revellograms A-6 had a few problems around the nose wheel well but the TRAM Turret covers the repair, and the intakes but the rest went to gether pretty much without effert and sanding, the other place that needs addressed is the TRAM scoop in the aft section it just needs to be opened up,
so Have fun, and post it when finished I'd love to see it

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 'Cuda

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  • From: Sandusky Ohio, USA
Posted by Swanny on Thursday, February 26, 2004 7:31 AM
A couple of things; first, use the "Fencing Technique" (see tools and tips on my site)when ever you need to use putty on seams so that the total amount of sanding is reduced and raised detail is protected. Second, small areas of raised detail that is lost can be replaced with a scored line - it works, see my construction feature on the B-17E - that's how I repaired those lines. I have also done this on two B-26s with raised lines, one OD and one NMF and you just can not tell the difference. Third, see the advanced weathering section on my site for washing raised lines. From the looks of your MiGs you are definitly skilled enough to handle this project.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 26, 2004 7:19 AM
I too have never rescribed panel lines but will try it one day soon. I built the Monogram A-6E a few years back, still have it and may strip it and redo the paint and decal scheme. I enjoyed building the kit and didn't have any real fit problems that I can remember, went together pretty good and when viewing the model a few steps back, the raised panel lines didn't make a big difference. Of course it would be great to see Hasegawa come out with one that has drop flaps and slats.
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  • From: Savannah, GA USA
Tackling raised panels....again! (A-6 Intruder)
Posted by Bones-coa on Thursday, February 26, 2004 6:59 AM
Well, now that I've finished my Mig (See below post), it's now time for me to get started on the OOP A-6 for my father-in-law. This will be a gift for him and I want this to really turn out well. However, again, it has raised panels. I know I have two options: One is to rescribe the whole thing. I've never done this and time isn't really on my side with this model. Two, leave it be and HOPE I don't destroy the raised detail that is there. However, we all know how Revell kits usually are in the fit department.

So, how good is this kit when it comes to fit? Will there be alot of sanding and filling that will jepordize the raised detail? I know of a few ways to restore raised panel lines, but what precautions can I take during sanding that may help to protect that raised detail?

Just trying to make some kind of decsion here before I start. Thaks for the comments.
Dana F On the bench: Tamiya DO335B-2 with LOTS of Aires stuff (On Hold) Trumpeter A-10 with LOTS and LOTS of aftermarket goodies! (On Hold) Tamiya 240ZG (In work)
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