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Monogram F-16XL Redux
Posted by USMC6094 on Tuesday, April 22, 2014 3:51 PM

I got a good deal on the old Monogram 1/72 F-16XL from a friend in my club ( i.e. FREE, lol) and even though its a basket case I decided to give it a good try at building it up into a good "what-if" representation.

Now for a little bit of history on the Viper "XL". This was General Dynamics attempt at the deep penetration strike fighter concept that would eventually turn into the F-15E. To my knowledge, only two were built, one single seater and one two seater.

The Monogram kit is a representation of the single seat model.

SO, yes my kit is a true basket case. Its donor used it for a pattern for an XL conversion for the soon to be released Tamiya 72nd scale F-16, so instead of a one piece upper fuselage and wing, mine is in three pieces, a center section and a left and right wing. The other area that gave of itself for this conversion are the "canoes" on the upper wing halves, so I have to scratch build them once I get that far along.

Over the easter weekend I got started doing a fair bit of cutting, sanding, filling, and scape'n. I got a new exhaust for my kit from this kits donor as well a new cockpit and main landing gear, but thats for another post. 

Anyway, I removed the kits exhaust area by drilling next to the last panel line before the kits bitter end and will graft on an RoG F-16 exhaust.

Anyway, I have to get to my evening class, I'll add more to this tomorrow and hopefully pictures.

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, April 22, 2014 3:52 PM

Oh wow... this should be a good one to see...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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  • From: Twin Towns, MN
Posted by MAgather on Tuesday, April 22, 2014 8:38 PM

I love the F-16 XL, great looking bird, too bad they didn't make the cut. Looking forward to following your progress.

Good Modeling,
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Posted by USMC6094 on Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:35 AM

well I did some work last night , the Mr. Surfacer I put in the bottom intake lip to even its contours out and even with a full day to dry, the Mr. Surfacer 500 I used as the base for the contouring. Well I'm sanding away happy as a lark then I look down and see the Mr. Surfacer has folded over on itself slightly in a corner of the intake. So that ended the sanding for the night. I let the intake half set up over night and will do some work on it tonight as well take pictures once I get to work this afternoon.

On another note, here are some other things I plan on doing with the kit to make it slightly more even with all these new Viper kits out today.

My friends RoG kit also provided me with a new upper forward fuselage I'm going to graft into the Monogram upper fuselage, I robbed the entire MLG assembly, an exhaust, all the clear parts,  the cockpit, and a few other little pieces.

The only real aftermarket part I'm going to use is a resin ACES-II seat, everything else will be plastic.

So stay tuned, I'll be posting pictures tonight.

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:56 AM

Looking forward to this. This is one of the few kit from my early days that I still have, though its looking a bit worse for wear. I don't think I have ever seen another built, so will be watching closely.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by USMC6094 on Thursday, April 24, 2014 7:31 AM

thanks fellas, after a little bit of trouble with posting a reply here last night, I have pictures to share

First, this is how much of the rear end I had to remove to get the new exhaust to fit, and it fits perfectly at the last panel line on the rear end. I spent two nights with a pin vise and files to get the upper and lower fuselage correct

next up is the fuselage/wing, heres the basket case part

The intake, first with the upper half

The dark spot in the middle of the Mr Surfacer is the top of the kits nose wheel well, the filler to get the inner intake contours is that thick

Now in its two pieces

And finally the RoG donor parts.

I bought a set of Aires ACES-II seats for this kit on-line this morning, so the only real aftermarket part is on its way, lol.

More updates to follow

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, April 24, 2014 11:02 AM

Oh I forgot how much that I liked the wing design on the XL

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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    February 2014
Posted by USMC6094 on Thursday, April 24, 2014 4:05 PM

yes sir she was definetly unique beyond a doubt and since I'm doing so many mods to get the accuracy level higher, I'm going to be painting and modding it to late ( as in current) Viper standards, but this weekend is going to be measuring and getting ready to graft fuselages

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  • From: State of Mississippi. State motto: Virtute et armis (By valor and arms)
Posted by mississippivol on Thursday, April 24, 2014 5:05 PM

If only the Arkansas air guard got those instead of those other -16's....

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Posted by USMC6094 on Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:50 PM

To my knowledge NASA wound up with both or the whole production run lol

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 24, 2014 10:52 PM

good so far, but try a different color as a back ground.   the real ones were a great air frame.  I was sad to see that it was a no go for this bird. I also worked on the yf 23 design stage

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Posted by USMC6094 on Friday, April 25, 2014 5:06 AM

I'll take some better pictures this weekend, I was stuck with a stripped mattress the night I took those  

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Posted by USMC6094 on Monday, April 28, 2014 7:40 AM

did some cutting over the weekend, and am getting the fuselage ready for the RoG graft.

I tried a new way of precision cutting as well, a straight pin with its head cut off, chicked in a pinvise, talk about nice, you can cut on a panel line and really not worry about the tip skipping or going where its not supposed to.

My Aires resin ACES-II came in as well, and I thought I'd seen tiny before, these things have all kinds of PE to go with them.

Aside from the cutting, I did some grinding and sanding to the cockpit tub and lower fuselage to get a little  clearance for the RoG parts.

I'll take pictures tomorrow and post them to update the progress.

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Posted by USMC6094 on Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:22 PM

okay, here goes,

Over the weekend I was able to make first major cuts on the fuselage, namely the panel line immediately forward of the IFR receptical and the radome panel line. In the end I has a slight length variation, but it'll be invisible once I get everything filled.

I used my new cutting technique to remove the RoG fuselages M-61 cannon fairing because if I left it as is it wouldve been lost once the filling and sanding begins.

Heres an overall shot

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Posted by USMC6094 on Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:24 PM

Now for the join where the old meets the new. I tried to match up the fuselage spine contours as best I could, but there will lots of filling, sanding and scribing in my future.

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Posted by USMC6094 on Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:25 PM

the right side of the join

and the left

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Posted by USMC6094 on Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:27 PM

and finally the itty-bitty resin bang seats

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Posted by USMC6094 on Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:27 PM

more to follow, I didnt have time to undo the tape so I could snap a pic of the fuselage joint from the inside

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, April 29, 2014 6:29 PM

A Frankenfalcon!

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
    February 2014
Posted by USMC6094 on Wednesday, April 30, 2014 6:50 AM

yesir once I get to the point I really do some work on it, it'll be a patchwork

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Posted by USMC6094 on Tuesday, May 6, 2014 7:45 AM

Have made a little more headway, I started rescribing the upper fuselage last night, well atleast the area aft of the RoG forward fuselage. I gave it a free hand try using a straight pin in a pin vise and tracing just lightly enough to make a shallow channel next to the original raised line. Not a perfect system, but I got decent results, at least to my eye. And I was too lazy to take pictures, so I'll do that tonight after I get home from school.

I think this weekend  I'll start on the resin ejection seat and landing gear and probably tinker with the intake some more since its about ready to be cemented together.

I need a lead on an exterior detail set for the F-16 and probably another kit to rob for little things the old Monogram kit lacks, like formation lights, beacons, and assorted other exterior bits and pieces.

Anywho, pictures tomorrow........

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