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US MiGs
Posted by roadkill_275 on Saturday, February 28, 2004 2:28 AM
Can any one point me in the direction of a site that shows MiGs in US markings? I am starting a sub-collection of Soviet a/c in US markings. I've already found the MiG-15 but I know of several MiG-21Fs' that were operated by the USAF. Were they ever in US markings? What about paint schemes?
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Saturday, February 28, 2004 3:00 AM
This was discussed sometime back. I'm afraid there's not a whole lot out there on this subject. I have some old AvLeaks that had photos of MiG-17's and MiG-21's that were operated by the Red Hats and Red Eagles, but I have no clue what ish it was and it would take forever to go through 'em.

(25 years of a weekly rag takes up alotta space!)

Anyhoo, here's a link to the thread from sometime back. There's many links given in this thread, but they're mostly useless for what you need. The link to the TTF page on the Nellis website is interesting in that it has photos of some of the aircraft on display at the museum, but they've all been repainted in mostly spurious schemes. Regardless, it's still worth a looksee.

Here's the thread.


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Posted by roadkill_275 on Saturday, February 28, 2004 9:10 AM
Thanks for the info. The thread was done before I joined, which is why I didn't see it. LOL. I have been researching this for awhile, ever since I saw 1 picture of a MiG-21 in USAF markings. That was years ago and I don't remember where it was at Ashamed [*^_^*].
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 28, 2004 9:45 AM
Roadkill, I'd love to see some of that info. If you find anything out please let me know! I'll do some searching myself and see what I can unearth in the meantime.
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Posted by roadkill_275 on Saturday, February 28, 2004 9:55 AM
Sounds like a plan to me.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 28, 2004 10:32 AM
If I may make a relevant plug:

From "United States Air Force: A Chronological History and Guide to Resources"

Magazine Articles and Photos:
[Photo: "USAF MiG#8722;29 on display"] Air Forces Monthly June 2001 p.11
Robert F. Dorr "Secret US MiGs" Air Forces Monthly June 2001 p.20#8722;23 5 photos
Newspaper Articles and Photos:
"Air Force General Flying Secret Craft Is Killed in Crash" New York Times April 27, 1984 p.A28
Wayne Biddle "General Killed In Nevada Crash Flew Soviet Jet" New York Times May 3, 1984 p.1+ 1 photo (just a generic Flogger pic if I recall - Chris)

And some additional:

http://hometown.aol.com/_ht_a/flynbrick/mig21-page.html
http://aeroweb.lucia.it/~agretch/RAFAQ/SovietinUS.html
http://www.historyofmilitary.com/Dark_Eagles_089141696X.html
http://website.lineone.net/~amarc/migs.htm

The Dorr article and Dark Eagles are probably your best bet...IIRC, at least the one MiG-21F had the stars-n-bars on the nose & wings, with a "USAF" pasted somewhere. The AFM photo is one of the ex-Moldavan Fulcrums -they had it on display at a show in Florida I believe - if I recall it had no canopy, so a non-flyer.

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Posted by 72cuda on Saturday, February 28, 2004 6:21 PM
When I was stationed at Nellis they had flyable MiG 21's, 23's, and 27's but they where displayed as statics and still had their orignal schemes & colors, also I've seen the pix of the MiG 25 that was flown at Dayton for test & evaluations prior to the release of the F-15's and it was the MiG Grey but had the Stars & Bars where the Red Stars where

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Posted by roadkill_275 on Sunday, February 29, 2004 2:30 AM
Thanks for the links!!Bow [bow]This is exactly what Iwas looking for. 72cuda did you by any chance get pictures of the MiG 25? if not do you know where I could find some? I stand in awe of the response I've gotten. I've already found more here than I have in 20 years of searching since I first found out about the MiGs!!
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Posted by roadkill_275 on Sunday, February 29, 2004 1:05 PM
I would like to takes this moment to thank everyone that has helped me with this. The information yall have provided is really appreciated. My wife thinks I should write a book on this. Think I should?
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Posted by roadkill_275 on Monday, March 1, 2004 11:18 AM
Doing some research this morning, I found reference to the US buying MiG-29s and SU-27s. Does anyone know anything about this? The timeframe was sometime in 2002 so this was fairly recent.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 1, 2004 11:24 AM
When I worked for Aeroflot in the 90's a lot if AN124's with Soviet eqpt went west and returned empty.
I have also read in AFM that the US bought MiG's from the smaller FSU countries.
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Posted by 72cuda on Monday, March 1, 2004 4:08 PM
hey Roadkill:
sorry for the missed time the forum was giving me fits this last weekend, the only places I could think of is the Wright-Pratt Museum & Smithsoians web sites

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 1:27 AM
log on to www.airwar.ru you can find some photo for your references.
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Posted by roadkill_275 on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 4:32 AM
Thanks delta dagger. Appreciate it.
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