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Question on cockpit canopies

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  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, July 8, 2014 8:38 AM

In addition to problems fitting a perfect seam on the windscreen portion of the canopy, masking the cockpit area may be difficult depending on how detailed you make the interior. If you have really put a lot of detail in there, and you mask it off or cover it with anything, you risk two problems. 1, paint getting in through a small area you missed masking, and 2, breaking or pulling off a small part when you remove whatever you are masking the area with.

I have, on occasion with models with very complex greenhouse areas (T-6, SBD, etc) made cardboard dummy canopies that I stuck in place with poster tack, and painted the greenhouse structures seperately.  If you make the dummy canopy carefully it is easy to attach and masks the area well.  Doesn't matter what the shape is, as long as it matches the mounting flange.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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    March 2013
Posted by patrick206 on Monday, July 7, 2014 4:35 PM

Hi, Spitfire- I also try to attach at the last of the build, especially if it's one color. If camo pattern extends into the canopy, (they almost all do,) it pretty much has to be painted on the fuselage. In which case I do my filling with strip stock, sanding and fitting in stages, not difficult, maybe a bit more time compared to filler from tube. When fuselage is ready for base coat I mask inside and leave canopy off, then spray. That base is sprayed on the canopy, while off the fuselage.

Then, to spray the camo patterns I temporarily attach the canopy with a variety of canopy adhesives, Testors, Future, even white glue, which actually does a pretty decent job of holding it in place, on a temporary basis. After spraying the camo pattern, the canopy can then quite easily be removed with very little force applied, clear coats can be applied to masked fuselage, canopy again spayed with clear coat off the fuselage.

Any mishaps like mask leaks, or any other flubs, can be addressed and remedied with the fuselage and canopy as separate units. When model is completed I attach canopy with those mentioned adhesives, even after the model has been completed for months, dust and just crud can find it's way into the inside of the canopy, there to reside forever and infuriate me. The less aggressive adhesive allows me to gently just pop the canopy off and clean, then re-attach.

Might sound an odd system, but it's worked well for me for quite some time. Cheers.

Patrick

  • Member since
    November 2004
  • From: Cat Central, NC
Posted by Bronto on Monday, July 7, 2014 3:30 PM

Attaching it before painting is the only way to fill / sand the seams around the canopy (needed for most kit canopies).  There is no way to do this after painting without noticing where the paint has been touched up.

fox
  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: Narvon, Pa.
Posted by fox on Monday, July 7, 2014 3:18 PM

Ditto on saving it to last. Don't want to make mistakes when it's on the plane. Easier to soak it in Windex to get the acrylic paint off and repaint when it's off the plane.

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  • Member since
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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, July 7, 2014 3:15 PM

For me it depends on the fit of the canopy. If its going to need some filling and sanding, it will also need touching up with paint, and this will be after the rest has been painted weathered and varnished. If I attach it first, I can do the filling and sanding before painting. Also, ifs its more than a one colour scheme, it may well be that the line between two colours will continue onto the canopy framing. If the canopy is painted off the model, these lines might not match up. And the canopy has to be painted some way. I would rather mask it and use my airbrush than hand paint it. Even if the canopy isn't on the model at the time of painting, I still mask it and airbrush.

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  • Member since
    February 2014
  • From: Michigan
Posted by silentbob33 on Monday, July 7, 2014 3:04 PM

I do it the same way you do.  I've had too many experiences where I've had paint bleed under the mask, so I don't trust myself to mask canopies.  Especially complex canopies like Stukas or Dauntlesses.

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    November 2013
Question on cockpit canopies
Posted by Spitfire on Monday, July 7, 2014 2:57 PM

I notice on a lot of WIP posts that most people seem to glue the cockpit canopies in place before doing the main body paint because I always see them taped up.  Isn't easier to just save attaching the canopy to the fuselage until last?  I've always saved it for last and that way I wouldn't have to worry about getting anything on the glass while finishing the model.  So I was just curious as to whether I'm missing something by not attaching it sooner. 

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