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Caspian Sea Monster
Posted by djmodels1999 on Monday, March 1, 2004 9:33 AM
Anybody taped the 30mins programme shown on Discovery (I think!) on the Soviet Ekranoplanes..? It was part of an hour-long programme on Secret Soviet Weapons, with the first 30 mins about some special Soviet subs. I saw some footage there I'd love to see again and again, particularly on the Caspian Sea Monster



and by the way, does anyone know where I can obtain some detailled 3-view drawings of this beast..?Tongue [:P]
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Posted by nmayhew on Monday, March 1, 2004 9:53 AM
hey djSmile [:)]
sorry no video, but i saw that programme as well...awesome wasn't it!?Big Smile [:D]
i couldn't believe the size of that thing, or the way in which the whole programme was unceremoniously dropped...what a waste!
regards,
nick
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 1, 2004 12:11 PM
Sorry, no video but check dis out!

http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=RG4609
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Posted by cassibill on Monday, March 1, 2004 1:11 PM
Didn't see it show but those are definately differant!! I'm curious now. Thanks for the link Dan. !/144 is my usual scale.

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Posted by djmodels1999 on Monday, March 1, 2004 4:28 PM
Dannyandre,

this Ekranoplane is the Orlyonok, one of the smallest..! That TV show showed quite a bit of that one too. I have lots of pics and the Aerofax book on those machines, but seeing movie footage of those things taking off and 'flying' was just amazing... The KM (the one I posted the picture of) was simply huge! There's no other kit of the Ekranoplanes I think, so I'm really thinking about scratchbuilding this one, but without decent drawings, it's gonna be hard!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 1, 2004 8:02 PM
Thanks for the link Dan!!! Sorry DJ, watched it but didn't tape it.
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Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 3:43 AM
I saw it! It was on Discovery here in Japan as well.
That thing is just nuts!
~Brian
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 5:40 AM
Saw it too before, here in the Philippines! A very unique show that was. I thought the brits were the only mad people (aside from the french of course), now russians too! Big Smile [:D]Laugh [(-D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 6:34 AM
And who said the US was the only country that could build decent aircraft Tongue [:P]

-runs away and hides-
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Posted by KJ200 on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 7:25 AM
I don't think anyone ever said that.

Karl

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 7:46 AM
Hey DJM! here's a link to a jet-powered one that I've never seen.

http://search.netscape.com/ns/boomframe.jsp?query=Ekranoplane&page=1&offset=0&result_url=redir%3Fsrc%3Dwebsearch%26amp%3BrequestId%3D6e733e62bf8b4ba0%26amp%3BclickedItemRank%3D4%26amp%3BuserQuery%3DEkranoplane%26amp%3BclickedItemURN%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.fas.org%252Fman%252Fdod-101%252Fsys%252Fship%252Frow%252Frus%252F903.htm%26amp%3BinvocationType%3D-%26amp%3BfromPage%3DNSCPIndex2&remove_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fas.org%2Fman%2Fdod-101%2Fsys%2Fship%2Frow%2Frus%2F903.htm
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 8:32 AM
Dan, There's something wrong with this link... Could you check it out? Thanks

Domi
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 9:04 AM
DJM-try this:
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/row/rus/903.htm
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 9:40 AM
Aaah! Much better! Did you see the size of that thing? It's longer than a Jumbo..! That tv show showed the Lun firing one of it's missile. Quite an impressive sight..!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 10:08 AM
Truly awesome-maybe Disney will revive the program. The fastest cruise ship with the ability to blow the competition out of their moorings. Wonder how it would look in White, Black and Red?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 8:10 PM
I have a photo of a jet powered sea plane...A Saunders Roe A1 on the lower Thames in Britain...circa 1951 in this book called "Pushing The Envelope". It's nowhere near as large as the Sea Monster, but I was still impressed with the design....I'll see if I can find a pic online.
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 1:37 AM
"Truly awesome-maybe Disney will revive the program. The fastest cruise ship with the ability to blow the competition out of their moorings. Wonder how it would look in White, Black and Red?"

Dan, I think the mouse ears would be cool too!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 2:53 AM
The Saunders Roe is currently in the museum at Duxford.
I saw it the last time I was over there.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 3:39 PM
Here she is:


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Posted by djmodels1999 on Thursday, March 4, 2004 1:27 AM
Kik36, the SR A1 was not a wing-in-ground effect airplane. In effect, the concept behind the Ekranoplanes is nothing new, not even at the time the Soviet started working on the Ekranoplanes. All aircraft and all pilots know that when landing, an aircraft has a tendency to 'stay in the air', because it creates an air cushion upon which it 'floats'.
The Soviet Ekranoplane programme was based on studies for a civilian transport/passenger plane that could at the time operate over longer distances than anything else engineers were trying to throw in the air. But in the Soviet society, it could only be developped through the interest of the military. Obviously, creating and operating gigantic airplanes that could transport troops and vehicles over large distances, at relatively great speeds and under radar cover, skimming over waves, was going to interest some military people. But in this case, not enough and not for long enough...
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 4, 2004 9:49 PM
Yeah I know.....somehow I kinda went a bit off topic....Someone was talking about jet powered ekronoplanes, and just thought I'd share the SR A1, 'cause it's too cool(even if technically it is a jet powered sea plane)!!! But it is nowhere near the size of the Sea Monster!! Sorry, I just kinda went off on a tangent there!!! LOL Tongue [:P]Wink [;)]
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Friday, March 5, 2004 1:32 AM
No harm done, Kik. The SR is indeed a cool looking machine!
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Posted by ChrisJH666 on Friday, March 5, 2004 5:44 PM
I remember seeing the SRA1 when it was in the air museum at Staverton in the 1970's (?). Very odd concept.
As for Ekranoplans, I also saw the programme, and I also failed to tape it!!! Sorry. I seem to recall having seen a kit of the thing somewhere though

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Posted by ChrisJH666 on Friday, March 5, 2004 5:56 PM
Ok, done a little investigating, and thought these couple of sites might be of interest.

http://www.se-technology.com/wig/
http://www.flankerman.fsnet.co.uk/ekran_144.htm



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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 6, 2004 2:35 AM
i have the caspian sea monster on video tape not just 30 mins but a whole hour with everything on the sea monster on a wings tape i made about 7 years agoyes i also think its a awesome machine and has great potencaial to be improved in the future drop me a e-mail and i see what i can do to help you out ill be back next saturday later
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