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Need some suggestions/help for my project
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 21, 2003 3:11 AM
Hello everyone! New guy here. Just got back into the whole modeling thing and want to make a diorama of a Bf 110G-2 (I know what your thinking.... Finally someone something other then a Bf 109! Big Smile [:D] ) Anyways, here is what I sorta want to "show"

The plane has come back from battle showing signs of fighting (bullet holes, flak, ect) and has had a rough landing. So naturally I figure, the flaps should be down, a gear or 2 damaged/broken off, props bent and some impact damage.

Does that sound alright? Now my questions.... Is there anyplace that you guys know of that describes how to remove and reattach the flaps and how to create "impact" damage? Also a quick question about the flaps... when removing them, should it be done before the wings are glued together or after?

Thanks in advance! Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 21, 2003 3:46 AM
The BF 110 flaps included the upper wing surface. A razor (jeweler's) saw would be to cut them out. For battle damage thin the plastic with a dremel tool or similar from the inside then make the holes. If you show battle damage around one nacelle you could model it with one engine out and hydralics for that wheel shot away which would mean a one wheel landing and a bent prop blade (or two).
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  • From: Central Ohio
Posted by Ashley on Friday, March 21, 2003 8:18 AM
Shep Paine's classic book on dioramas has excellent instructions on how to do battle damage, should give you a wealth of ideas!

Have you flown a Ford lately?

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 21, 2003 8:36 AM
Try www.aircraftresourcecenter.com.
There are plenty of "how-to" articles on this website. I have found them personally invaluable. Good luck on your project and happy modelling!
Jamie.
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  • From: Pominville, NY
Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Friday, March 21, 2003 11:45 AM
Ashley is a modeler after my own heart. My modeling hero is Shep Paine and my ancient copy of his Dio book is well thumbed and quite beat to hell. Strange, though, I've yet to actually finish a diorama...

Anyhoo, I'll expand a bit on what claymore said. For battle damage, thin the plastic with a dremel or other moto-tool from the inside. Then use a knife to put in some holes using a twisting motion. If there's a bit of plastic sticking out in different directions, that's good. Use references to see what actual battle damage looked like and try to replicate it.

Also, if there is a large enuff hole, there may be some internal structure visible through it. Use any references that you may have in order to find out what might be in there. (structural stuff like ribs and spars, control cables, hydraulic lines and the like) Or, you can use a bit of "gizmology", as Shep puts it. Use a bit of plastic strip, card, some wire or whatever to represent this internal stuff.

If I drop flaps or deflect ailerons, stabs or the rudder , I like to wait until I have the wing together to actually separate the control surface, though it's a good idea to do some work beforehand.

I usually thin the plastic, again, with a moto-tool and cut through the lines representing the ends of the control surface. NOT the hinge line, which runs parallel to the length of the wing or stab but the left and right edges of the flap, aileron etc. (For rudders, if there are any horizontal separations then I cut through these) That way, once all is glued together, all you have to do is a bit of cutting on the hinge line and snap the piece off. Then build up any missing structure with plasticard and/or strip. For a rounded edge, use plastic rod.

Sounds tuff to do, but every unknown is like that. Once you actually do it, it's no longer and unknown. I'd recommend practicing on a scrap wing or something before you try this for the first time on a good model, though.

Fade to Black...
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 21, 2003 1:07 PM
use a knife to drill, paint the entire thing silver, and pain the edges black and if its old, paint it partially rust. put several around the naceles. spray blakc paint onto the surface LIGHTLY and that will simulate engine damage
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  • From: Washington, DC
Posted by TomZ2 on Friday, May 23, 2003 2:30 PM
Let me start by saying that I HAVEN'T DONE THIS YET, but I am planning on trying it. I've noticed that soda cans (esp. Diet Coke) are a free source of nice thin aluminum, stiffer than foil but soft enough to bend, that one might use to fabricate aircraft panels/parts a LOT thinner than what one can do with plastic.

I'm planning on using such to make replacement wheelwell doors for a 1:72 interceptor. There's no other way I can think of to get the doors to be of scale thinness while leaving them sturdy enough to survive. Anyway, if you're planning on doing some crash-torn cowling and such, you might consider this approach.

BTW, I have it on good authority (I wasn't around then, but my aunt was) that during WWII German POWs interned at Louisville, Kentucky used to make model tanks from tin cans and scrap to earn a little money.

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