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    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, August 3, 2016 9:01 AM

Nope- the kit will go up on my shelf of doom today- the shelf for unfinished kits in suspended animation.  I am starting a Sword Sikorsky S-43 today.

I need a model for a club challenge (seaplanes) this fall, and repairs to the Curtiss may well put that in jeopardy.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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    January 2015
  • From: Tumwater, WA.
Posted by M. Brindos on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 10:33 PM

That is tragic, but you need to get back on that horse, Don. Its just plastic.  ;)

We know you can do it.

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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    June 2014
Posted by BrandonK on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 8:59 AM

Looking good thus far. Disaster? Nah !! More challange I say. You can do it, post up those repair pics.

BK

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    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 8:54 AM

Disaster!  After gluing the fuselage top on, I had the plane propped up since the clamps made it tippier than normal.  I accidently bumped the workbench and the prop fell away, allowing the plane to tip over onto a wingtip.  I knew that lower wing was very fragile, and should have propped it up better.  But sure enough the starboard wing broke off at the the carrythrough spars.  I have drilled the spars (they are about 1/16 square), and tried to drill matching holes in the wing, to put brass rods in.  Haven't tried to glue it back on yet- I am fearing the process. If the holes do not line up properly, the interplane struts may not work when I try to glue on the upper wing!  And the fragile wing will be very floppy till I get all the rigging on.  The interplane rigging will be very function on this bird!  Just picking up the plane with the lower wing on, the tips of the wing would droop at least an inch!

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Lakewood, CO
Posted by kenjitak on Sunday, July 31, 2016 2:30 PM

This looking great. The wood decal really works well.

 

Ken

Ken

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    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, July 30, 2016 9:25 AM

I talked to someone who has completed the Fexistowe version, which is basically the same kit with a few details different.

He solved the dilemma by only mounting the lower wing before gluing on the top.  Much easier to mask when touchup painting.  Then he erected the top wing while the bottom wing was on the model.  Tricky operation but it worked. I have decided to go that way.

Thanks, Eric Zabel!

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Saturday, July 30, 2016 8:04 AM

Really neat Don, the engines and the deck look great, looking forward to seeing more. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by CrashTestDummy on Friday, July 29, 2016 2:24 PM

Don Stauffer

Now I have a real dilemma.  The fuselage, instead of being the normal two halves, is four pieces- two halves that form the bottom and sides, and two top pieces.  The forward section of the top can be done now, but the top section must be added after the wings are added, because the bottom wing of this biplane is a shoulder wing mounting, and the wing includes carry-through spars for a center section.

<SNIP>

Ahh, so it IS a usual Roden kit!!  I really like their subjects, and they usually have a decent amount of detail, but they constantly have assembly instructions where you have to put together no less than 3, and usually 4 or more, parts at a time, with no support or locating pins!! 

I found myself building many temporary jigs to put together their PKZ-2.  The finished kit is awesome, but work came to a halt many times trying to figure out _how_ to get the parts together with the right alignment.

Gene Beaird,
Pearland, Texas

G. Beaird,

Pearland, Texas

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    March 2015
  • From: Streetsboro, Ohio
Posted by Toshi on Friday, July 29, 2016 9:17 AM

That is the best isdea for your build at this time.  I do agree with you in that the seams, glue, and mask will cause issues.  If anyone can overcome these issues, it would be you sir.

Toshi

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  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, July 29, 2016 8:53 AM

Now I have a real dilemma.  The fuselage, instead of being the normal two halves, is four pieces- two halves that form the bottom and sides, and two top pieces.  The forward section of the top can be done now, but the top section must be added after the wings are added, because the bottom wing of this biplane is a shoulder wing mounting, and the wing includes carry-through spars for a center section.

Now, if I finish assembling the wings, as shown in the instructions, I must then add the top section.  The wings and the fuselage are different colors.  The wings, if fully assembled as show, will be very fragile, and would not be able to be masked. 

I could paint the fuselage seperately before assembly, painting the partially assembled fuselage and the fuselage top.  Then, I could finish and paint the wings. I could then insert the wings into the partially assembled fuselage and then glue on the remaining fuselage top.  But...  here is the rub, if the seam along the top/side joint needs any filling and painting, keeping the paint off the wings will be very difficult!

Still, that is what I am planning.  I am trying to prepare the join surfaces on the fuselage sides and tops as carefully as possible, hoping the seam will not be noticable.  Scares me, though!

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

  • Member since
    January 2015
  • From: Tumwater, WA.
Posted by M. Brindos on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 5:37 PM

That is top shelf, Don! I really like what you've done so far. More please!  :D

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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  • From: Streetsboro, Ohio
Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 2:13 PM

Ingenuity on your part is nothing short of amazing.

Toshi

On The Bench: Revell 1/48 B-25 Mitchell

 

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

 

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    September 2014
Posted by rooster513 on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 2:02 PM

That floor looks spot on Don. Great start!

-Andy

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Curtiss H-16 flying boat wip
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, July 26, 2016 12:50 PM

Finally got the radiator mounting and coolant lines figured out, and making progress now.  A couple of pictures below.  This is the Roden 1:72 scale kit. It is essentially the same as their Felixstowe kit with a couple of new parts, instructions, and new decals

Once I figured out exactly where things go (the Roden assembly drawings are terrible) the engine really looks nice.  Some flash, but it cleans up okay and the detail is great.  Those are miniature clothspins from Model Expo- the engines are less than 3/4 of an inch long.

The floor is supposed to be planked natural wood.  No plank lines molded into floor, so I made an oak-grain colored decal and placed parallel lines on it in brown.  I think the result is a pretty fair appearance of wood planking.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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