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Preshading + Chipping Dilemma

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  • Member since
    July 2003
  • From: Chicago, USA
Preshading + Chipping Dilemma
Posted by MonsterZero on Wednesday, March 8, 2017 12:53 PM

If I preshade my aircraft model with a very dark color or black, and then use the hairspray technique or chipping fluid to create chips, the black preshading will be exposed by the chipping! I don't want that to happen.

Chipping should expose the primer, not black. The primer is typically some shade of light or medium gray! Or in the case of tanks I think it's reddish brown.

Or if the plane is made of wood or canvas then we can expose the "wood" or "canvas" (assuming the chip went all the way through the primer).

This dilemma screws up my pre-shading plans! I don't want the chipping to expose black paint under the body paint, this will just look wrong.

Should I just forget about pre-shading and use post-shading only?

Any ideas?

 

  • Member since
    August 2014
  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, March 8, 2017 1:30 PM

Off the top of my head (not having tried either procedure), how about the salt method prior to preshading, only in the preshaded areas you want chipped. Then your chips would show all the way to primer after color coats?  Hairspray the rest of it.

  • Member since
    May 2016
  • From: Rapid city SD
Posted by B-1 CrewCheif on Wednesday, March 8, 2017 3:10 PM

Make sure your base is a lauqer or enamel based, and the black is acrylic. 

Doogs models did an article about it here: https://doogsmodels.com/2014/10/09/technique-multi-layer-chipping/

 

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  • Member since
    May 2009
  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Wednesday, March 8, 2017 3:38 PM

Hello!

My first thought was: first the primer, or metal or what do you want as chips, then the hair spray, then the preshading and ten the final colour. Seems kina natural, doesn't it? Chips dark colour wouldn't be too wrong neither, as dirt could accumulate there, the corrosion would be faster there, too!

Good luck with your build and dont overdo the weathering - have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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  • Member since
    June 2013
Posted by bvallot on Thursday, March 9, 2017 2:44 PM

Well, without telling you how to go about your painting process in an entirely different manner... I can tell you this. The chipping solution or hairspray (my choice personally) will go down on whatever you want to show underneath what's being chipped away. For example, if it's a metal undersurface you aim to reveal then the hairspray or solution would go on top the metal color. Let's say you wanted some of the zinc chromate color mixed in with this. Put down your metal color, then the zinc chromate color, then your hairspray or what have you. Once it's dried, paint what ever it is you want on top to completion. Whenever you're done, soak the surface in water until it's saturated and slowly pick away until you're happy with the chipping. I personally don't use preshading any more for panel lines especially if I'm chipping the surface, but I don't think you'll have to worry about that too much anyhow. Most of what you'll be seeing is chipping on the panels or along the border. I suppose it depends on how you're going about painting the metal color, but any darker color within the panel lines shouldn't concern you too much. Anything you don't like, you can carefully cover back up with some post shading or weathering depending on your goals.

As for wood or canvas...that's sort of a different monster, but same principal. I paint solely in Tamiya acrylics and in thin coats. The MiG chipping solution did not work out for me too well. The hairspray though hasn't failed me yet...sooooo. Let's say you put down some oil paint in an effort to make a wooden paint scheme that got "painted" over. Same principal...allow the oil to dry, hairspray, then your next color. Use water to soak and chip the appropriate areas, seal in a flat coat or whatever you're looking for and continue whatever weathering you're still need to accomplish. =] It's not too bad.

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