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P-82B Merlin Powered Twin Mustang...

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P-82B Merlin Powered Twin Mustang...
Posted by fotofrank on Tuesday, June 13, 2017 8:22 PM

I'd like to build a Merlin powered P-82 as it might have appeared over Japan escorting B-29s, if WWII had lasted through 1946 and into 1947. My plan is to build Monogram's F-82G kit but change the "Allison nose" to a "Merlin nose." I'm trying to figure out how to go about this. The exhaust stacks on the F-82G are these square things that I guess hide the exhaust flame on the night fighter version of the F-82. So I'm wondering, should I get the F-82 kit and two 1/72 scale P-51 kits and do a nose swap? The P-51 and the P-82 are such radically different airplanes that I wonder if such a swap is possible without a lot of surgery. I've thought about just removing the square F-82G exhaust and replacing it with Merlin exhaust from two Mustang kits but the nose swap seems to make more sense. I'm open to any ideas anyone might have. I haven't been back in the hobby long enough to have accumulated a lot of extra unused parts. So that's where I am.

BTW: Have a look at this, it's kind of where my idea comes from:

http://xp-82twinmustangproject.blogspot.com/

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  • From: Yorkville, IL
Posted by wolfhammer1 on Tuesday, June 13, 2017 8:32 PM

Depneding on how accurate the kits are, you might be in for quite a bit of work.  As I recall, the F-82 is loosely based on a P-51H, which has different contours than the P-51D.  That could make matching the grafted nose to the rest of the plane involve a lot of putty and sanding.  I'd want to do a bit more research to see how the nose contours vary betweeen the Allison and Merlin engines.  Good luck.

John

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Posted by fotofrank on Tuesday, June 13, 2017 8:42 PM

Yeah. Good call, John. I had forgotten about the P-51H factor in the design of the P-82. At least the P-51H was still Merlin powered.

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Posted by richs26 on Tuesday, June 13, 2017 8:55 PM

Yes, you do need 2 H models to do the swap as the H used an uprated Merlin.  Bet bet would be an RS Models H as the donor according to Scalemates.

WIP:  Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 73rd BS B-26, 40-1408, torpedo bomber attempt on Ryujo

Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 22nd BG B-26, 7-Mile Drome, New Guinea

Minicraft 1/72 B-24D as LB-30, AL-613, "Tough Boy", 28th Composite Group

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Posted by fotofrank on Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:02 PM

I saw the RS Models kit. Twenty bucks for the kit, I think. Injection molded too. I was looking at 1/72 scale P-40 kits too, just for the exhaust stacks.

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Posted by fotofrank on Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:18 AM

Well, I've thought about it and slept on it and thought about it some more. I'm going ahead and buy the Monogram/Revell F-82G and build it stock out of the box. I'm not going to modify the exhaust. I know there are a lot of kit bashers out there that will say "no, you hafta do it." I just don't want to spend the money on the two P-51H kits, really. I'll still paint the twin Mustang in WWII colors of some fighter group based on Iwo Jima to get what I'm after. I wanted to build a P-82 that my dad might have seen looking out of the flight engineer's window of his B-29 on the way to the Empire. Of course, the war ended and my dad never went overseas, but what if, you know...

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Posted by fotofrank on Friday, June 16, 2017 9:38 AM

I went to Michael's this morning to get some tack stuff and dowells to use for painting canopies. While I was there I found two Monogram F-82G kits and I bought both of them. I was reading up on the Twin Mustang last night and discovered that the F-82G was delivered to the AAF during 1946 so it will still appropriate to paint the airplane kit in WWII Mustang group colors I believe.

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Posted by mississippivol on Friday, June 16, 2017 8:56 PM
This is just an idea, but you might consider a scheme from one of the P-47 groups, too. It certainly is in the realm of possibility that those groups would convert to the P-82. It gives you options anyway.
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Posted by fotofrank on Saturday, June 17, 2017 6:39 PM

I'll have to look that up. Jug groups never occured to me. I know they were there.

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