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1/72 C-130E(I) Rivet Clamp Special Operations Aircraft - WIP

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1/72 C-130E(I) Rivet Clamp Special Operations Aircraft - WIP
Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, August 07, 2017 11:06 AM

In 1971, while stationed at Nha Trang AB, Vietnam, I was fortunate to work on four C-130E(I) Rivet Clamp aircraft assigned to the 90th SOS that conducted special operations under the code name "Stray Goose". These were specially modified C-130E aircraft that were painted in a black and green camouflage scheme, which gave them a very sinister look. The Rivet Clamp aircraft were later upgraded and re-designated as MC-130s or Combat Talons.
 
The many unique modifications of the Rivet Clamp aircraft included Terrain-Following Radar (TFR), Electronic Countermeasures (ECM) sensors, Forward Looking Infrared Radar (FLIR), Low Light Level TV (LLLTV), and the "Black Crow" Radio frequency Intelligence) sensor for locating ground vehicles. Many of the sensors they carried would later be used on the AC-130 gunships to locate targets; however, the Rivet Clamp aircraft carried no weapons. The Clamps also carried a host of special navigational gear and radios. And they were equipped with the Fulton aerial pickup system, made famous in the movie "The Green Berets".
 

I was an ECM technician assigned to First Flight Detachment which was, at that time, part of the 90th SOS. Our primary job was supporting the C-123K "Black Bat" aircraft, but we also supported two defensive systems on the Clamps that their own ECM techs were not qualified to maintain.

The aircraft I've decided to model is aircraft 64-0555, "Triple Nickel" (shown above) using Italeri's 1/72 C-130E/H kit No. 015. I'll be modifying the nose with a Flightpath C-130E-1/HC-130H/HC130P Conversion Set and adding some PE detail from Flightpath's C-130 Hercules Detail Set. Everything else will be scratch built.
 
 

 

 

 

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Posted by Toshi on Monday, August 07, 2017 11:35 AM

That's a nice kit and I like your AM parts!  Wow, lots of PE.  I'll be following.

Toshi

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Posted by Got Plastic? on Monday, August 07, 2017 11:45 AM

Striker,

Fantastic project. With your knowledge and personal experience with this beautiful aircraft this should be one for the books. I hope you enjoy every second of this build. I will definitely be here watching.

Chris

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, August 07, 2017 12:14 PM

The front part of the Rivet Clamp cargo deck was blocked off from view and held consoles for the 2nd navigator, ground sensors operator, ECM equipment operator and radio equipment operator. In order to be able to see the detail in the crew cabin and cargo hold, I cut out a section of the top of the aircraft that will be removable, as shown below.

 
 
The Italeri's flight deck was incorrect, as was the rear cabin bulkhead so I made my own versions of both, as shown below.
 
 
 
I also started detailing the lower deck equipment bay, the galley and the navigator's position. I modified the kit supplied navigator's seat and added seat belts. I also added the circuit breaker panels along the sides of the flight deck.
 
 

The picture below shows the raised deck for the pilot,co-pilot and engineer's seats temporarily in place. I also went ahead and scratch built and detailed the center console. It was necessary to get the raised deck and console in place to accurately position the main instrument panel.

 

Here is the finished flight deck with the center console in place and seats painted. The scratch built rudder pedals are a bit large but they won't be seen very well anyway, so I didn't change them.

 

I didn't care for the kit instrument panel so I made my own, as shown below. The instruments are a photo compiled from several pictures, printed on photo paper and cut out and glued to the new panel. At this scale, the lack of depth of the instruments is not noticible.

 

Here's the completed flight deck, followed by a picture showing it installed in the aircraft.

I added the left and riight side control panels for the pilot and copilot. The PE nose gear steering wheel was way too small so I made one from sheet plastic.
 
Below is a picture of the finished cockpit area with the fuselage halves temporarily held together. Now I could go on to the cargo deck detail.

 

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, August 07, 2017 12:17 PM

Thanks Chris and Toshi! Glad to have you both aboard!

Cheers,

Russ

 

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Posted by mig23 on Monday, August 07, 2017 12:50 PM

Tracked you down Russ ! :)

Looking forward to seeing this thing come out the spray barn !

 

Cheers,

Haydn.

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, August 07, 2017 2:14 PM

Hay, Haydn! Smile  Ya, me too, bud. I've started with the bottom but RLI keep getting in the way. Hope to get most of it done this week.

Cheers,

Russ

 

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Posted by USAF 462 / 2W1 on Monday, August 07, 2017 2:27 PM

All signed up and following along Russ. Looking forward to the updates.

 

Steve

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, August 07, 2017 3:14 PM

Before I added the consoles, I wanted to add detail to the back of the crew compartment bulkhead and along both sides of the forward cargo area. The first picture below shows the right side details, the second the left side. 

 

The upper rack on the left side is the LS (life support) rack. The crew parachutes are hanging below. The ladders were used for emergencies.

 

The next photo shows some of the detail added to the removable roof section. Those long green things are air ducts.

 

Below is the finished removable section. The tan area in the photo is the ceiling over the crew compartment and includes the overhead control panel cluster.


 

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, August 07, 2017 4:26 PM

Next are some photos of the evolution of the Talon compartment detail, starting with the main console. The actual main console was slightly different but I couldn't find any photos of it so I used pictures from the Talon I.

The next pictures show the main equipment rack. Again, I had to go by the Talon I configuration but they were probably pretty much the same since space on the aircraft was extremely limited.

Here's the completed compartmnent.

And here's a shot of the partition at the back of the compartment. A black curtain covered the entryway when passengers and non-cleared personnel were present. The Talon compartment was classified Top Secret.

 

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Posted by Pawel on Monday, August 07, 2017 4:28 PM

Hello Russ!

This one is just fantastic! I always wanted to build one of those, but the references are just non-existent - those birds were so top-secret, and after that they modified them over and over and over and nowadays even if you found one such aircraft it looks completely different. So your "been there, done that" might be the only source of knowledge available! On top of that your detailing is top notch! Those instrument panels, those ducts look very good! So good luck with your build and thanks a lot for sharing, have a nice day

PaweĊ‚

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, August 07, 2017 5:25 PM

Hi, Pawel!

Thanks for the good words!

Cheers,

Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, August 07, 2017 5:59 PM

This kit is pretty good overall, but there were some areas that needed upgrading. I started with the main landing gear. The gear wells were bare and the main strut assemblies were mostly inacurate. I threw away the kit gear wells and made my own and then I modified the strut assemblies, as shown below.

The nose wheel well was pretty sterile and even though most detail will be hard to see, I added one feature that the kit left out - a bulkhead at the back of the wheel well, as shown in the photo below. I built the bulkhead out of sheet styrene and strips and added HO scale rivet decals. I also added some piping.

I made a few changes to the nose gear as well.

 One important feature was left off the kit...the ECM chaff ports on either side, just ahead of the troop doors. That's not surprising since these aircraft were classified and not many photos of them exist. Below is one that shows the ports on the right side. They're located just above the guy that's sitting on the fire extinguisher. The same setup was repeated on the left sponson.

Below is my rendering of the chaff ports. The second window (above the chaff ports) was done away with on both sides because of the chaff dispenser equipment inside.

 

Below is a model of a single chaff dispenser that held two chaff magazines. There were 8 dispensers - 4 on either side, for a total of 16 magazines (same setup as in the B-52D).

The next picture shows the right side dispensers and magazines mounted in their cabinet (with the doors removed) and the following picture shows the left side dispensers represented with just a cabinet.

 Since I had already detailed the cargo area back to the troop doors, I decided (reluctantly) to go ahead and detail the ramp area. That was a sore trial indeed since, unfortunately, none of the PE parts were suitable and I ended up scratch building all the detail.

BTW, our receivers were mounted on racks on either side near the roots of the horizontal stabilizers but they wouldn't be visible with the ramp doors open so I didn't add them.

Below are both halves with the interior detail completed.

 

Now it was time to close up the fuselage, also a sore trial.

Tags: 1/72 , C-130 , special ops , talon , chaff

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, August 07, 2017 6:34 PM

Once the fuselage was closed up, I addressed the cockpit windows. I didn't like the way the thick clear plastic canopy looked so I decided to make my own. I used the canopy as a template and built the window frame out of thin styrene strips, intending to use glazing for the windows. After the new nose was on, I sanded down the window frame until it was flush with the body.

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, August 07, 2017 6:36 PM

The nose radome, as it came in the FlightPath AM kit was not correct for a Rivet Clamp aircraft. The radome was too long, and it was not shaped correctly. I had to cut off about 5 mm and do a lot of sanding and filling to get it to the right shape. Below is what it looked like before and after modifying it.

  

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, August 07, 2017 7:40 PM

Interesting build, very convincing.

John

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Monday, August 07, 2017 9:08 PM

Hmmm;

 Being as how the C-130 in any model is my really favorite non Sea-Plane prop driven bird  , I certainly like what you've done here .Very nice .

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Posted by Ultra on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 2:08 AM

First, thank you for your sevice.  Second, wow what a ton of dimension and depth to that interior.  Really enjoyed everything you posted so far here.

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 2:17 AM

Wow, you're doing a fantastic job on this kit!  Your IP scratch building is superb as well as every single attention to detail you've put into this.  What great project!

Toshi

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 2:25 AM

Russ, wow, thats another really amazing build andyour attention to detail is first rate.

What do you make of the Flightpath conversion. I'm looking at getting an Italeri Herc and useing the flightpath conversion to do a stretched RAF version.

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Posted by Jay Jay on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 7:23 AM

Fabulous scratch building I must say. You Sir, have some mad skills. What a model building advantage to have actually worked in and on this aircraft.  Also to rebuild the canopy structure is just above and beyond .Bow Down

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 8:46 AM

jeaton01

Interesting build, very convincing.

 

Thanks, John, and thanks for looking in!

Cheers,

Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 8:47 AM

Tanker - Builder

Hmmm;

 Being as how the C-130 in any model is my really favorite non Sea-Plane prop driven bird  , I certainly like what you've done here .Very nice .

 

Thanks, Tanker - Builder!

Cheers,

Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 8:50 AM

Ultra

First, thank you for your sevice.  Second, wow what a ton of dimension and depth to that interior.  Really enjoyed everything you posted so far here.

 

You're most welcome, Ultra. And thank you for your support, and for the good words!

Cheers,

Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 9:04 AM

Bish

Russ, wow, thats another really amazing build andyour attention to detail is first rate.

What do you make of the Flightpath conversion. I'm looking at getting an Italeri Herc and useing the flightpath conversion to do a stretched RAF version.

 

Hi, Bish, and welcome! Many thanks for the good words!

Are you talking about a stretched version of one of the special ops C-130s? The Flightpath conversion I bought was really not correct for any Herc with the Fulton pickup system. None of them, as far as I know, had those two grooves in the radome to accomodate the yoke forks. And the radome is not the right shape for either the Rivet Clamp or the Talon I, although it looks about right for the Talon II. You would just need to fill in those gooves and you might have to widen it a bit toward the top on both sides.

The J-model Herc looks to have the traditionaly shaped nose so you shouldn't need the conversion.

Cheers,

Russ

 

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 9:09 AM

Jay Jay

Fabulous scratch building I must say. You Sir, have some mad skills. What a model building advantage to have actually worked in and on this aircraft.  Also to rebuild the canopy structure is just above and beyond .Bow Down

 

Thanks, Jay Jay! I really appreciate the compliments!

Cheers,

Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 9:12 AM

USAF 462 / 2W1

All signed up and following along Russ. Looking forward to the updates.

 

Steve

 

Hi, Steve and welcome! Thanks for coming aboard! Sorry if I missed your post earlier.

Cheers,

Russ

 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 9:17 AM

Striker8241

 

 
Bish

Russ, wow, thats another really amazing build andyour attention to detail is first rate.

What do you make of the Flightpath conversion. I'm looking at getting an Italeri Herc and useing the flightpath conversion to do a stretched RAF version.

 

 

 

Hi, Bish, and welcome! Many thanks for the good words!

Are you talking about a stretched version of one of the special ops C-130s? The Flightpath conversion I bought was really not correct for any Herc with the Fulton pickup system. None of them, as far as I know, had those two grooves in the radome to accomodate the yoke forks. And the radome is not the right shape for either the Rivet Clamp or the Talon I, although it looks about right for the Talon II. You would just need to fill in those gooves and you might have to widen it a bit toward the top on both sides.

The J-model Herc looks to have the traditionaly shaped nose so you shouldn't need the conversion.

Cheers,

Russ

 

 

No, its not a special Op version, just a standard transport. The RAF use both lengthered and standard versions and Flightpath does the extension plug for it. I have never used any of there resins sets and just woundered what you thought it it.

The other option i have is from Wingman models which is a lot morte epensive but includes engines and other resin parts so just looking at the options.

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 9:33 AM

One correction I forgot to mention - the kit rendering of the auxilary power unit (APU) at the front of the left sponson was almost non existant. I cut open the air intake port and added a recessed compartment and the doors. I also drilled out the two exhaust ports and scribed the panels around them. The "guts" of the APU that appear through the intake port is actually just a photo reproduction glued to the inside. So too are the mesh screens for the exhausts.

Also, the ram air vent above the APU was too big so I filled it in from the back (red color).

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 9:43 AM

Oh, sorry Bish Embarrassed. I've got nose radomes on the brain...Smile. I haven't tried that particular mod yet. But my old Pappy always told me.. buy the best you can afford Big Smile

Cheers,

Russ

 

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