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SBD-3 Harness Question
Posted by rooster513 on Tuesday, May 08, 2018 6:37 AM

Hey all! I'll be starting Accurate Miniatures SBD-3 form the Battle of the Coral Sea soon. The instructions have an after action report stating that S-12 carried the single machine gun so I'm ok with going with that but I have a question on the seat harness. AM gives a decals that shows the shoulder harness but from most of the research I've done shows a Dautless from this time frame (May 1942) would only have lap belts for gunner and pilot, correct? I know this question has been asked before but I also know that people research and find new answers all the time as well.

-Andy

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    February, 2003
  • From: Northeast Bavaria, Burglengenfeld, Germany
Posted by kielers on Tuesday, May 08, 2018 9:33 AM

Hi Rooster513,

I'm currently building the AM SBD-5.  In my research for the kit I found that pre-war SBDs 1-3 didn't have the shoulder harness for the pilot.  Shoulder harnesses were only installed after the start of the war.  It's in one of my Squadron SBD books, either the Walk-Around or the In-Action book, can't remember which.   Unfortunately, the Eduard PE sets only include a lap belt for the pilot.  The gunner can't wear a shoulder harness because of the configuration of his pivoting, swivel, turret style seat assembly.  If you go back a couple pages in the aircraft forum you'll find a couple of my posts with some photos of my SBD-5

"To stand upon ramparts and die for our principles is heroic, but to sally forth to battle and win for our principles is something more than heroic." -- Franklin Delano Roosevelt. "Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few." -- Winston Churchill

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  • From: Nashville, TN area
Posted by bobbaily on Wednesday, May 09, 2018 7:39 PM

Andy-hope you find an answer(s),,,,getting ready to start a Coral Sea SBD-3 and would like to get it right,

I did find this:

http://atrecovery.com/Images/2106/DAUNTLESSreport2106.pdf

Did a quick read and the only thing I found is that armored seats were installed when the war started.

Good luck

 

Bob

bob

 

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    September, 2014
Posted by rooster513 on Thursday, May 10, 2018 9:58 AM

kielers

Hi Rooster513,

I'm currently building the AM SBD-5.  In my research for the kit I found that pre-war SBDs 1-3 didn't have the shoulder harness for the pilot.  Shoulder harnesses were only installed after the start of the war.  It's in one of my Squadron SBD books, either the Walk-Around or the In-Action book, can't remember which.   Unfortunately, the Eduard PE sets only include a lap belt for the pilot.  The gunner can't wear a shoulder harness because of the configuration of his pivoting, swivel, turret style seat assembly.  If you go back a couple pages in the aircraft forum you'll find a couple of my posts with some photos of my SBD-5

 

Thanks kielers! I take a look at your SDB-5 project!

-Andy

  • Member since
    February, 2003
  • From: Northeast Bavaria, Burglengenfeld, Germany
Posted by kielers on Friday, May 11, 2018 2:22 PM

Hi Rooster513,

I just checked my Squadron SBD Dauntless Walk-Around book - a caption on page 23 states "Shoulder restraints did not become standard equipment on SBDs until the start of World War II."  So probably pretty safe to say that your Coral Sea SBD-3 did have pilot shoulder restraints.   

"To stand upon ramparts and die for our principles is heroic, but to sally forth to battle and win for our principles is something more than heroic." -- Franklin Delano Roosevelt. "Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few." -- Winston Churchill

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