Interior Color For A SBD-1 Dauntless At Pear Harbor

GMorrison

 

 

stikpusher

Model companies are known to err in their instruction sheet color call outs.

 

 

 

To the point where it's not even worth the trouble to check these out.

 

I find that the Holy Grail is an unaltered, not colorized, photo that's contemporary. But those are really hard to find.

 

Exactly. Research online for photos and sites like the 109 Lair and IPMS Stockholm with all their troves of research. Detail and Scale books are another super source.

stikpusher

Model companies are known to err in their instruction sheet color call outs.

I find that the Holy Grail is an unaltered, not colorized, photo that's contemporary. But those are really hard to find.

In the link provided, one of the posters/researchers said something along the line of "I think this is what it might be" and supposedly the model company took it as gospel for their color callouts......

Well, period color photos show the interior green on SBD-1s. Most photos of SBD-1s, even b&w, show something other than aluminum lacquer in there. There is too much tonal and reflective difference on interior components visible in the b&w photos that do not match the aluminum lacquer exterior. Not so much photo evidence to support the lacquer interiors as commonly used. I’d say that interior green is the safer bet. Model companies are known to err in their instruction sheet color call outs.

So I just looked at the instructions for the AM SBD-1, and it does say that pre-war, “All aircraft were primed with zinc chromate finish on all metal surfaces, inside and out.  Silver lacquer was applied over the primer.”  

Interesting comment about SBDs never being coated with aluminum lacquer in the cockpit.  Accurate Miniatures‘ pre-war SBD-1 boxing does indicate that the cockpit was aluminum lacquer and I believe does describe how the coating was made in the instructions.  I have that kit in the que to build so it looks as if I have a decision to make.  Not looking at the instructions right now, but I wonder what AM’s reference was.

GMorrison

Scorched

 

yeah... pretty much...

Would tend to agree, some kind of zinc chromate coating, just for the corrosion resistance in a salt air envirionment.

In the link photos, the alum. interior does make the detail painting pop though.

stikpusher

Here is a great original color photo of one in late 1941 off Quantico. If you look close at the cockpit, you can see green on the rollover structure behind the pilot. 

 

 

This overall gray scheme with the the white lettering is how they would have looked at MCAS Ewa on the morning of the attack.

 

Up close, the ADF loop, in front of the backseater, looks like it's green too.

Scorched

Here is a great original color photo of one in late 1941 off Quantico. If you look close at the cockpit, you can see green on the rollover structure behind the pilot. 

This overall gray scheme with the the white lettering is how they would have looked at MCAS Ewa on the morning of the attack.

It worked for me but here it is again:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/hyperscale/question-re-sbd-1-yellow-wings-markings-t493297.html

That first link leads to one of those stupid amazon redirects...

”you’re a winner!”

Douglas SBD's never had aluminum interiors as per Mr. Color, Dana Bell.

Here with the real answer on page 2:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/hyperscale/question-re-sbd-1-yellow-wings-markings-t493297.html

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/hyperscale/viewtopic.php?f=149674&t=495470&p=2591084&hilit=sbd+1+interior+color#p2591084

And the photos of a recovered SBD-1 showing Douglas interior green:

http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/DETAILSITE/US/USN/SBD/SBD1/1612.htm

You could likely go with either aluminum lacquer or interior green. TBDs in the pre war Yellow Wings were seen with green interiors, so likely Douglas also did the switch on the SBD around the same time. 

I have an SBD-1 in the line up, wondering the same thing! It seems like the interior finish was in a state of transition around the time of Pearl Harbor, so aluminum or some shade of interior green? 

Looking forward to more opinions on this

Pretty high odds it was aluminum.