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1/48 Monogram B-17G Man-O-War II WIP

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1/48 Monogram B-17G Man-O-War II WIP
Posted by redraider56 on Wednesday, January 09, 2019 7:02 PM

Now that I've been bitten by the modeling bug again I figured what better project to start out with than one I've been researching for the better part of 8 years now.  The kit is the Monogram B-17G and the subject is "Man-O-War II" a B-17G-25-DL from the 91st BG.  I'm not really sure how I settled on this particular one but I'm glad I did because the history behind it has been fascinating to say the least.  Once I'm finished I plan to make a diorama of the plane following a misson on April 26th 1944 on which flak took out the no. 1 and 2 engines over France and the crew had to land at RAF Thorney Island instead of trying to make it back to Bassingbourn.

I'll say right off the bat that progress may be slow...I want to take my time with this one.  I plan to load this with aftermarket pieces I've collected through the years and am aware that alot of it may not be seen, but I enjoy superdetailing so that's my reasoning.  I'm waiting on a coupole things for the cockpit and nose so I started modifying the main pieces.  I decided against Verlinden's resin superchargers and decided to jsut drill out the kit ones.  I've also cut away the elevators and flaps...the flaps will be from Shapeways.  I plan to tackle the gear wells this weekend as well as stagger the waist windows.  Douglas went to staggered waists much earlier than Boeing or Vega and the only two production blocks of -17s to come from the factory with staggered waists AND camouflage are 25-DLs and 30 DL-s.

 

 

A brief history:

Man-O-War II joined the 322nd BS of the 91st BG in early February of 1944 and was initially flown by Lt. William S. Burtt.  The above picture of Burtt (kneeling middle) and his crew with their new plane was taken less than 2 weeks after the original Man-O-War flew her first and only mission.  On Jan 29th during a mission to Frankfurt, enemy fighters jumped the group right after bombs away.  Man-O-War had 2 engines quickly knocked out  and Burtt said she "fell like a crippled gull" as he tried to maintain control.  He recalled the tail gunner shooting down two Me 110s and the navigator shooting down an Me 410 but right after that a 20mm shell shattered the nose cone and killed togglier Roy Wright.  Another shell wounded radio operator Charles Grubb.  Burtt managed to lose the fighters in cloud cover but as he was crossing the channel he had to feather a third engine.  Riddled with bullet and flak holes and skimming only a couple hundred feet off the ground, the plane finally hit the coast and after narrowly missing a power line, Burtt bellied the plane in a turnip field.  A couple hours after crash landing a German plane roaming the area attempted to bomb the crew but was unsuccesful.  The plane was written off as a total loss and a week later famed nose artist Tony Starcer painted an almost identical motif on Burtt's new plane.  Man-O-War II would have a couple close calls early on such as the April 11 mission to Stettin and the April 26 mission to Metz/Nancy but it would be far more successful than its predecessor and went on to  complete 77 missions before being shot down on the bloody Merseberg raid of Nov 2nd 1944.  She was last seen falling out of formation with one wing on fire and under attack by half a dozen FW-190s.  Pilot Lt. Leroy Hare and the three other officers managed to bail out and became POWs but the five enlisted men were KIA. That day was the single costliest mission of the war for the 91st as they lost 13 planes.

 

-Matt

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Posted by Rambo on Wednesday, January 09, 2019 7:49 PM
This should be a great build always love a bit of history with the build log

Clint

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Posted by GAF on Wednesday, January 09, 2019 9:54 PM

Sounds like quite a project!  Will be interested to see how it turns out.

Gary

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Posted by learmech on Thursday, January 10, 2019 9:40 AM
Looks like a interesting build. I will be watching with interest as I also have adiorama plan for my monogram B-17. Still working on the planning.
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Posted by Jay Jay on Thursday, January 10, 2019 10:10 AM
Ty for all the fascinating history, much appreciated. I am doing a 1/48 Monogram Visable B-17 now. It's the essentially the same kit . I am interested to know the aftermarket goodies you have purchased for yours as my interior will show all that.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by MrStecks on Thursday, January 10, 2019 11:20 AM

Cool project Matt.  Thanks for providing the history too, pretty amazing stuff.  Looking forward to watching this one come alive.

Cheers,
Mark


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Posted by redraider56 on Thursday, January 10, 2019 11:41 AM

 

Thanks guys, I hope to have some more work done soon.

Jay Jay
Ty for all the fascinating history, much appreciated. I am doing a 1/48 Monogram Visable B-17 now. It's the essentially the same kit . I am interested to know the aftermarket goodies you have purchased for yours as my interior will show all that.
 

I’m mixing and matching bits from True Details, Verlinden, Eduard and a couple Resin2Details pieces as well.  The TD and Verlinden sets were bought years ago and I’m glad I did since I see now that Verlinden has closed it’s doors. Right now I’m sanding off all the interior molded detail and test fitting/shimming the TD cockpit and nose floors.  Once some strip styrene comes in I’ll get to work replacing stringers.  So not much of anything exciting is going on at the moment but once all that is done it should start progressing more.

-Matt

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Posted by the Baron on Thursday, January 10, 2019 2:21 PM

Great project!  I love this kit, and it's always nice to see someone build it.

Are you going to use the crew figures, too?

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Posted by redraider56 on Thursday, January 10, 2019 4:49 PM

Baron, I'll be using one of the pilot figures.  The rest of the crew will be made up of Verlinden, CMK, Jaguar and Teknics figures.  Others (ground crew, officers, etc) will be from ICM, Eduard, Jaguar and Prieser.  All told I'll have 20-25.

I  rough cut the new opening for the staggered waist gun.  I still have to go over with a needle file and maybe add some styrene strip to the top since it looks like I may have gone a smidge too big.

-Matt

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Thursday, January 10, 2019 6:29 PM

This looks like a nice ambitious build. I will be following for sure.

Chad

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Posted by redraider56 on Friday, January 11, 2019 4:44 PM

My Eduard sets came in today and a test fit of the IP shows I failed to take into account that they were fitted for the kit part and not the True Details panel....chalk that up to my brain being fried from work this week.  I plan to still use the TD panel though as that's I've been fitting the rest of the cockpit with.  Now, B-17 panels stopped right below the bottom set of gauges but as you can see, the TD gauges were spaced out quite a bit and using the Eduard panel will leave me about a 2mm border of solid resin.  I think what I'll do is file that gap off at a 45 degree angle so it's not as noticeable when looking down on it.  I'll also need to shim the throttle column as well.  So it may not be 100% perfect but taking into acount the limited viewing angle of the cockpit once the fuselage is closed up I think it should be fine.  The weird thing is that both the TD and kit pieces have the same curvature and all that, it's just the TD panel was spaced out too much.

 

 

 

-Matt

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Posted by the Baron on Friday, January 11, 2019 5:37 PM

redraider56

Baron, I'll be using one of the pilot figures.  The rest of the crew will be made up of Verlinden, CMK, Jaguar and Teknics figures.  Others (ground crew, officers, etc) will be from ICM, Eduard, Jaguar and Prieser.  All told I'll have 20-25.

Cool, I'm glad you will!  I'm an old Monogram fan going back to the 70s, and that was one of my favorite things, the figures they included with their kits.  And reading Shep Paine's "Tips" brochures.  I'm glad you'll use the figures, too.  Many modelers are still a little apprehensive about adding figures.

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Posted by Jay Jay on Saturday, January 12, 2019 7:57 AM
Speaking of adding figures, I'm doing a 1/48 Visable B-17 hopefully in flight, and am looking for the crew at their stations when in flight , but I haven't found any in 1/48 scale. Does anyone know where to get these "in action" figures ?

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by redraider56 on Saturday, January 12, 2019 8:56 AM

Jay Jay
Speaking of adding figures, I'm doing a 1/48 Visable B-17 hopefully in flight, and am looking for the crew at their stations when in flight , but I haven't found any in 1/48 scale. Does anyone know where to get these "in action" figures ?
 

To my knowledge the only “in flight” figures in 1/48 came from various Monogram kits.  I believe the Visable B-17, ProModeler B-17 and B-24D had some.  They didn’t make a full 10 man crew though.  Even  figures not in flight are hard to find.  The Teknics and Jaguar sets I have are long out of production and now so is the Verlinden set.  I hope someday a manufacturer notices this lack of crew figures and comes out with some sets.

-Matt

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Posted by Jay Jay on Saturday, January 12, 2019 11:21 AM

There is an excellent one in 1/72. but the mfg. has no plans for a 1/48 scale set.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by redraider56 on Saturday, January 12, 2019 12:44 PM

Yeah, I knew there was a 1/72 and I believe someone makes a crew (not in flight) in 1/32 as well.  Unfortunately I think it make take a new tooled bomber to get some new figures in 1/48.  I’m completely happy with these old kits though.

-Matt

On The Bench: 1/48 Monogram B-17G "Man-O-War II"

 

 

 

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Posted by redraider56 on Saturday, January 12, 2019 8:58 PM

The Shapeways flaps and wells came today.  This is my first experience with 3D printed parts and I must say they look great.  Can't wait to see them painted up.

-Matt

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