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1/48 Roden T-28B Trojan COMPLETE

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1/48 Roden T-28B Trojan COMPLETE
Posted by keavdog on Friday, May 03, 2019 1:34 AM

 

Big fan of the trainers.  This one started out great, but tonight I hit a paint compatibility issue.  Here's the WIP

 

Sub assemblies going along nicely.  I used the prepainted eduard PE stuff and have mixed feelings. 

 

 

 

Asssembly was a bit different, but after figuring it out it went together well.

 

 

 

Fast forward to painting - gloss white went on well.  I used True North international orange which went on well and looks the part.  Little overspray here and there but manageable.

 

 

Last step was to paint the flat black anti-glare.  I masked with Tamiya tape which is rock solid in terms of bleeding etc.  Then hit it with Tamiya rattle can flat black....Ugh...

 

Crinkled up over the orange and bled like a stuck pig. 

 

I'm going to let it dry for a week or so and start to address the nasty issues.

 

 

I figure we should share our successes and our failures - this is a big turd!  Sucks when the last step goes wrong.  I'll post my attempts to correct after this mess dries.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Tosh on Friday, May 03, 2019 3:14 AM

Yes, I completely agree with you.  Wait a week and let dry while you step back and think about correcting the issue.  Still, everything looks good to me sir!

Your Friend, Toshi

Reside in Streetsboro, Ohio

At work with my grandson Ezra, building a Bandai 1/144 X-Wing Starfighter and a Y-Wing Starfighter.

 

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Posted by rangerj on Friday, May 03, 2019 12:48 PM

I would guess that the reducer or thinner in the rarttle can was not compatable with the other paint. In addition it is best to not mix brands, or at least let the thinner in the fresh paint be allowed to "flash" off before applying another brand over it. The clear floor coating could also be used as a "barrier" to prevent a chemical reaction between the two brands. Just some thoughts. 

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Posted by goldhammer on Friday, May 03, 2019 1:27 PM

After you take care of the wrinkles,and repair, after you mask and burnish down the tape, shoot a coat of clear over the edge of the tape to seal....should keep the bleed through on the edge to a minimum. 

Looks good otherwise, hope you planted nose weight in it.

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Posted by keavdog on Friday, May 03, 2019 2:13 PM

There's a bunch of sinkers glued behind the engine.  She's heavy!

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Friday, May 03, 2019 8:22 PM

Oh no, that stinks!  What do you suspect caused that? 

Chad

God, Family, Models...

At the plate: 1/48 ICM Fw 126

On deck: 1/72 Airfix Lightning

In the hole: 1/72 Airfix Hunting Percival 

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Posted by keavdog on Friday, May 03, 2019 9:10 PM

Laquer over enamel I suppose.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by keavdog on Sunday, May 05, 2019 1:57 AM

Progress!  Got the gear on - and touched up the bleed a bit and dealt with the crinkle issue.   Still needs attention but coming along.  Canopy looks good - though not glued down yet.  Bit more work to do.  I hit the panel lines with a pencil for a bit of contrast.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Sunday, May 05, 2019 4:26 AM
I'm sure you'll be able to fix the paint issue. Looks great.

 

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Posted by crown r n7 on Sunday, May 05, 2019 6:27 AM
  •  I’m glad you were able to fix that issue. l really like that paint scheme ..YesYes 

Nick.

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Posted by rangerj on Sunday, May 05, 2019 12:37 PM

Looks great. I like the T-28, especially in the Navy training schemes, e.g. chrome yellow and the insignia white and international orange as in your build. As a general note you can apply enamel over laquer, but not lacquer over enamel. I have used clear lacquer over Testers Model Master enamel but it was applied in very light coats and allowed to dry between coats. This generally gives you a rough surface but it can be cut and buffed (1200, 2000, 2500 sand paper wet sanded then polished with compound) . This is generally done for cars, but I have done this with a matt clear for aircraft. Testers clear lacques are not as harsh and work well for this.

The T-28 is a great old bird and has been in service as long as the B-52s.

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Posted by keavdog on Monday, May 06, 2019 1:37 AM

Cleaned up the anti-glare panel a bit.  Fiddley bits around the landing gear are a bit busy.  I may need to touch up a bit here and there but making progress.  BTW - I hate white airplanes :/

 

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Tosh on Monday, May 06, 2019 2:07 AM

That looks fantastic!  Add a little amount of black to just barely tint the white paint.  It helps.

Your Friend, Toshi

Reside in Streetsboro, Ohio

At work with my grandson Ezra, building a Bandai 1/144 X-Wing Starfighter and a Y-Wing Starfighter.

 

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Posted by keavdog on Monday, May 06, 2019 2:21 AM

Interesting idea Toshi

Thanks,

John

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Posted by keavdog on Saturday, May 11, 2019 2:35 AM

Did some decal work tonight.  Coming along

Thanks,

John

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Posted by crown r n7 on Saturday, May 11, 2019 3:34 AM

Looking really good !!

 

 

Nick.

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Posted by keavdog on Saturday, May 11, 2019 4:01 AM

Thanks crown.  It's been an interesting build.  Trying to keep my sticky fingers off the gloss white paint has been a challenge.  LOL

Thanks,

John

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Posted by crown r n7 on Saturday, May 11, 2019 8:15 AM

oh yes, you have let that glossy finish dry. you must resist......

Nick.

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Posted by keavdog on Sunday, May 12, 2019 5:52 AM

Waiting for the prop to dry.  White tips in front, yellow on the back - probably the worst case scenario over black.  Anyhow... I'll finish this one up tomorrow

 

Thanks,

John

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Posted by freem on Sunday, May 12, 2019 5:32 PM

Really really nice! Super paint job even with the issues

Chris Christenson

 

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Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 2:16 AM

Not a show winner, but really like the overall look.  Anyway - this one goes on the shelf.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by crown r n7 on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 5:17 AM

well done !Yes  

Nick.

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 5:48 AM
Came out great. Definitely in the front row on the shelf

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 8:43 AM

Very nice!

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 3:23 PM

Very nice!

John

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Posted by goldhammer on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 3:34 PM

Nice saves on the paint work.  I like her, well done.

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Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 5:12 PM

Thanks for the kind words all.  Quite the color pop on my shelf!

She's a big bird compared to the new Texan

Thanks,

John

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Posted by rangerj on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 9:20 PM

looks super. As another suggestion: on a gloss white aircraft, or in areas painted gloss white such as the landing gear wells or air brake well on, say a Blue Angles aircraft, use flat white very, very, lightly tinted with black or grey as a wash. This brings out the details, or panel line, but doesn't make the area look "dirty".  

I have done a couple of the Monogram T-28 kits, but having seen your model I need to get one each of those B and C models of the T-28.

 

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Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 10:31 PM

Thanks for the tip rangerj.  I haven't been happy with the oil wash I've been doing.  Always looks like serious hydraulic issues lol.  It's a pretty nice kit.

Thanks,

John

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