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    July 2013
Posted by Razor04 on Wednesday, May 15, 2019 6:47 PM

Does anyone here know what pylons on the AV-8B the APKWS rockets are cleared for?  Is it the same as all the other LAU series launchers or is it different.  Thank you.

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Posted by oortiz10 on Thursday, May 16, 2019 10:08 AM


I don't know the proper designation of the pylons, but I did find these webpages with pictures of some loaded on Harriers.

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, May 16, 2019 11:03 AM

Learned something new here. But the APKWS is a simple add on kit for the basic 70mm Hydra Rocket. Much like the Paveway or JDAM kits convert standard Mk. 80 series bombs into PGMs. 

An educated guess says that where the standard LAU pod for the Hydra rockets can be carried, works on APKWS. Seeing how the inboard wing pylons are often dedicated for drop tanks, depending upon mission profile, and the outboard wing pylons are usually dedicated for AAMs, depending upon the threat environment, that kind of narrows it down. 

Now I am just trying to figure out scenarios where a 70mm PGW would be the preferred munition. Something hardened (but not overly so, it’s only a 70mm rocket) and danger close fits the bill. And of course there is need for somebody to paint the target with a laser designator...



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Posted by wolfhammer1 on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 9:38 PM

Poking at the internet a little, it appears that if you use a standard 70mm Hydra launcher, the rockets stick out the front about the length of the warhead section, give or take.  They do seem to have modified launchers that fully enclose the rocket's length, similar to the unguided versions.  As far as the loadout, I'd presume if you can find reference to a old style unguided rocket the guided versions would be a 1-to-1 replacement.

As far as why you would want this, my guess is price.  The 70mm Hydra rockets are pretty much dirt cheap, at least compared to the Hellfire, and if you would guarantee the hit, one Hydra would take out any soft skin vehicle, and if you are carrying a 19 round pod, that means you have 19 kills, where the unguided rockets would be a handfull of targets at most.  Just my 2 cents here.


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Posted by Razor04 on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 9:42 PM

Thanks for the responses everyone.  

I far as I can understand the point of the system is for a most precise was of taking out a target in say like an urban area with minimal collateral damage.  So again thanks for the info everyone



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