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  • From: Stevens Point, Wisconsin, USA
Posted by Tom Hering on Monday, July 15, 2019 12:34 PM

Thanks RadMax8!

The V-173 kit seems to be made of a soft, weak plastic. The hairline crack along the port leading edge was jagged, and ran through the plastic next to the seam, not through the seam itself - perhaps because the plastic was under stress there. And when I was attaching tiny bits to the spinners, a large, thick chunk of spinner just cracked right off. I'm guessing the plastic is sensitive to chemicals and chemical fumes (primer, CA, accelerator), causing it to fail in spots.

"A little more persistence, a little more effort, and what seemed hopeless failure may turn to glorious success" - Elbert Hubbard

"Perfect is the enemy of good" - attributed to Voltaire

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Posted by RadMax8 on Monday, July 15, 2019 8:32 AM

Your efforts are well worth it! Glad to see the seams and flat spots aren’t keeping you down!

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Posted by Tom Hering on Monday, July 15, 2019 5:47 AM

Success at last! A hairline crack opened up along the seam on the port leading edge, requiring one last session of filling, sanding, and priming. However, there are no more flats now - everything smoothly curves the way it should.

"A little more persistence, a little more effort, and what seemed hopeless failure may turn to glorious success" - Elbert Hubbard

"Perfect is the enemy of good" - attributed to Voltaire

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Posted by Tom Hering on Sunday, July 14, 2019 7:30 AM

I guess I'm not finished fixing things after all. It's taking a lot of work to be happy with the transition between the upper and lower halves of the plane - along the prop arms and the leading edge. Prime and sand, prime and sand, prime and sand.

"A little more persistence, a little more effort, and what seemed hopeless failure may turn to glorious success" - Elbert Hubbard

"Perfect is the enemy of good" - attributed to Voltaire

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Posted by Tom Hering on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 4:11 PM

More seam flaws than I thought. Finished fixing them with CA and Vallejo Plastic Putty #70.401. Also did some corrective sanding on the port prop arm. During assembly, on the outside of the arm, there was a step between the upper and lower halves, which I tried to blend. Primer revealed I had created a noticeable flat along the join.

A note on the Vallejo putty. It must contain air bubbles, because I see a lot of pinholes after it dries. Two or three applications are required to fix this. The putty is a water-based mix of acrylic resin and marble dust. Same as Liquitex Light Modeling Paste, found in arts-and-crafts supply stores. But the Liquitex is much, much cheaper per ounce, and can be thinned to the same consistency as the Vallejo.

"A little more persistence, a little more effort, and what seemed hopeless failure may turn to glorious success" - Elbert Hubbard

"Perfect is the enemy of good" - attributed to Voltaire

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Posted by Tom Hering on Tuesday, July 09, 2019 5:33 AM

Primer is down on the V-173. Gunze Sangyo Mr. White Base 1000. A few minor flaws in seams were revealed, but that's par for the course.

"A little more persistence, a little more effort, and what seemed hopeless failure may turn to glorious success" - Elbert Hubbard

"Perfect is the enemy of good" - attributed to Voltaire

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Posted by Tom Hering on Thursday, July 04, 2019 7:43 PM

Thanks John!

"A little more persistence, a little more effort, and what seemed hopeless failure may turn to glorious success" - Elbert Hubbard

"Perfect is the enemy of good" - attributed to Voltaire

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Posted by Tom Hering on Thursday, July 04, 2019 7:38 PM

Thanks Chad!

"A little more persistence, a little more effort, and what seemed hopeless failure may turn to glorious success" - Elbert Hubbard

"Perfect is the enemy of good" - attributed to Voltaire

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, July 04, 2019 7:22 PM

Nice!

John

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Thursday, July 04, 2019 6:53 PM

Looks like beautiful lacquered wood!

Chad

God, Family, Models...

At the plate: 1/48 ICM Fw 126

On deck: 1/72 Airfix Lightning

In the hole: 1/72 Airfix Hunting Percival 

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Posted by Tom Hering on Thursday, July 04, 2019 6:43 PM

Woodgrained all the prop blades today.

First coat is a dark yellow acrylic. Second coat is a thinned, burnt umber artist's oil paint - brushed on, then streaked with the cut edge of a sponge (packaging foam). I'll let these dry for a week, then apply a clear gloss coat, tinted to make the blades a little deeper and redder in color. After that, I'll paint cuffs, stripes, and tips. Then apply decals.

"A little more persistence, a little more effort, and what seemed hopeless failure may turn to glorious success" - Elbert Hubbard

"Perfect is the enemy of good" - attributed to Voltaire

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Posted by Tom Hering on Thursday, July 04, 2019 1:38 PM

Gamera

Ah ok, however you did them they look perfect! Wish I could brush paint that well. 

 

Here's the tutorial I followed to hand paint the Dark Sea Blue canopy. It's an easy technique that doesn't require perfect neatness with a brush.

https://youtu.be/RH7qlFr7iVg

"A little more persistence, a little more effort, and what seemed hopeless failure may turn to glorious success" - Elbert Hubbard

"Perfect is the enemy of good" - attributed to Voltaire

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, July 04, 2019 8:02 AM

Ah ok, however you did them they look perfect! Wish I could brush paint that well. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Tom Hering on Thursday, July 04, 2019 7:55 AM

Thanks Gamera! Actually, I did very little masking, and only on the yellow one. I'm kind of allergic to masking, but I think I'll have to get used to it if I'm going to build aircraft models. A skill that must be mastered.

"A little more persistence, a little more effort, and what seemed hopeless failure may turn to glorious success" - Elbert Hubbard

"Perfect is the enemy of good" - attributed to Voltaire

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, July 04, 2019 7:31 AM

Sharp work on the landing gear and those canopies turned out great! Fantastic job on masking and painting them! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Tom Hering on Wednesday, July 03, 2019 10:30 PM

Thanks Greg!

"A little more persistence, a little more effort, and what seemed hopeless failure may turn to glorious success" - Elbert Hubbard

"Perfect is the enemy of good" - attributed to Voltaire

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Posted by Tom Hering on Wednesday, July 03, 2019 10:28 PM

Thanks John! I like your guess about the landing gear cylinders.

"A little more persistence, a little more effort, and what seemed hopeless failure may turn to glorious success" - Elbert Hubbard

"Perfect is the enemy of good" - attributed to Voltaire

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Posted by Greg on Wednesday, July 03, 2019 7:34 PM

Nice work on the canopy masking/painting!

Both are very nice, the yellow one is a knockout.

-Greg

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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, July 03, 2019 6:25 PM

I have no idea what those fixtures might be.  As to the cylinders on the landing gear, usually a reservoir for the brake sysytem will be before the pistons that actuate the brakes.  I would bet those cylinders are related to the oleo struts instead.

Very nice paintwork on everything.

John

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Posted by Tom Hering on Wednesday, July 03, 2019 2:49 PM

Since I'm building the XF5U-1 as the plane that actually existed, prototype #2 (BuNo 33958), I'm thinking I might include the feature in the photos below (it doesn't appear in all photos of prototype #2). I haven't been able to find any information about it, or any clearer photos, but my guess is that it's a pair of inverted extinguishers, plumbed to the engine compartments for fire supression during tests. Does anyone think this is a possibility? Has anyone seen something similar on other test aircraft of the period?

"A little more persistence, a little more effort, and what seemed hopeless failure may turn to glorious success" - Elbert Hubbard

"Perfect is the enemy of good" - attributed to Voltaire

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Posted by Tom Hering on Monday, July 01, 2019 3:45 PM

Gear for XF5U-1 prototype #2. The kit's brake fluid reservoirs have been replaced with styrene rod - detailed with decal stripes.

Headrest added. Onward to the propellers for both planes!

"A little more persistence, a little more effort, and what seemed hopeless failure may turn to glorious success" - Elbert Hubbard

"Perfect is the enemy of good" - attributed to Voltaire

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Posted by Tom Hering on Saturday, June 29, 2019 4:27 PM

Canopies painted. Three methods were used.

The V-173's canopy was done with a combination of masking/spraying and decal stripes. Paint is Testors 1214 and 1114 Gloss Yellow. The decal stripes are Print Scale CAMO-035. The yellow of the decals doesn't quite match the Testors paint, but I'm happy with the overall result.

The XF5U-1's canopy was hand painted with Model Master FS15042 Dark Sea Blue, and then cleaned up with a sharpened wood toothpick.

Both canopies were dipped in Future.

"A little more persistence, a little more effort, and what seemed hopeless failure may turn to glorious success" - Elbert Hubbard

"Perfect is the enemy of good" - attributed to Voltaire

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Posted by Tom Hering on Friday, June 28, 2019 12:19 PM

Gamera

Sorry, guess I wasn't much help. Great to see that with John's help you're on the right track now though! 

 

You were indeed being helpful. Thanks!

Here's what needs to be done to turn the Kitty Hawk kit into prototype #2.

1. Don't use the tailhook, bombs, bomb racks, and armor glass provided in the kit.

2. Fill in the channels for the tailhook mechanism. (I did this with sheet styrene, but if I were to do it again, I'd use epoxy putty - though the added weight might make it necessary to use the metal landing gear set from Scale Aircraft Conversions).

3. Pose the exhaust flaps for engine cooling air (parts D15, D17, D24, D26) in the open position - the way they're most often seen in photos.

4. Replace the kit's thick, ribbed, landing gear canisters (parts C27) with thinner, plain, styrene rod.

5. Make a square headrest for the pilot's seat.

6. Make wheel bulges for the outer main gear doors.

7. Remove the ribbing on the rudders.

8. Fill in the six gun ports.

9. Use just one national insignia decal - on the upper port side.

10. Place the decals representing taped-on walk/work panels OVER the national insignia. (The kit instructions and box art show the panels UNDER the insignia!)

11. Place the oval logo decals on the front side of the port propeller, and the back side of the starboard propeller.

12. Create custom decals for the vertical fin and rudder markings, as well as the propeller tracking diamonds.

"A little more persistence, a little more effort, and what seemed hopeless failure may turn to glorious success" - Elbert Hubbard

"Perfect is the enemy of good" - attributed to Voltaire

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, June 28, 2019 7:46 AM

Sorry, guess I wasn't much help. Great to see that with John's help you're on the right track now though! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Tom Hering on Friday, June 28, 2019 5:34 AM

jeaton01

It sure looks like Amarillo to me, here's a jpg.  I can send you a dxf file as well.

 

 

Thanks! I believe you're right. It looks like Amarillo to me as well, though the character spacing in "NAVY" is tighter in the photo below.

"A little more persistence, a little more effort, and what seemed hopeless failure may turn to glorious success" - Elbert Hubbard

"Perfect is the enemy of good" - attributed to Voltaire

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Posted by Tom Hering on Friday, June 28, 2019 5:31 AM

jeaton01

Here is another Arup with a different control configuration.

 

 

That's the Arup S-4, with the S-2 behind it. The Wikipedia article about the S-4 says the plane was scrapped during WWII, but then also says it went to a museum in Texas in the 1970s. ???

"A little more persistence, a little more effort, and what seemed hopeless failure may turn to glorious success" - Elbert Hubbard

"Perfect is the enemy of good" - attributed to Voltaire

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, June 28, 2019 12:47 AM

It sure looks like Amarillo to me, here's a jpg.  I can send you a dxf file as well.

 

John

To see build logs of my models, go here: http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.htm

  

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, June 28, 2019 12:34 AM

Here is another Arup with a different control configuration.

 

John

To see build logs of my models, go here: http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.htm

  

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Posted by Tom Hering on Thursday, June 27, 2019 10:08 PM

Gamera

Oh gee, good luck with your modifications. Looks cool so far. 

 

BTW: Have you checked the model railroad section of the hobby shop for the letters and numbers? You might also look in a regular craft store too. 

 

Thanks Gamera. I think I'll be using the custom decal service from Bedlam Creations. All they require is a photo(s) of the real plane.

"A little more persistence, a little more effort, and what seemed hopeless failure may turn to glorious success" - Elbert Hubbard

"Perfect is the enemy of good" - attributed to Voltaire

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