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Hgw wet transfer troubles
Posted by kov1985 on Saturday, September 21, 2019 7:55 PM

hello everyone,

 

I’m currently building tamiya’s 1/32 birdcage Corsair and am up to the decal stage. For this is opted to use a set of those HGW wet transfer. This being a competition piece of course I’ve run into unprecedented trouble. I’ve applied the decal and two days later the damn film won’t peel up. I’ve chipped the paint trying to pick it off with tweezers, and once I can get a corner it comes off rather easily, but it’s mostly stuck down like a normal decal. Right now all the decals are down but with giant rectangles of clear film around them.

 

first question is what the hell?? Second question is what do I do?

 

anyone have any suggestions?

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Posted by JohnnyK on Saturday, September 21, 2019 8:03 PM

I have never used that product. But, here is a web site describing how it's done. https://hgwmodels.cz/en/content/18-wet-transfers 

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Posted by kov1985 on Saturday, September 21, 2019 11:45 PM

Cheers mate, but it came with the instructions. Does anyone think that rubbing it with a cotton bud wet with mr mark softer will help/harm? Because that’s all I can think of.

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Posted by Phil_H on Sunday, September 22, 2019 4:19 AM

kov1985
Does anyone think that rubbing it with a cotton bud wet with mr mark softer will help/harm? Because that’s all I can think of.

If it comes to wetting it down and trying to peel the carrier off, I'd try with water first rather than a solvent. 

 

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Posted by snapdragonxxx on Tuesday, September 24, 2019 4:06 PM

You left the film on for too long. What you need to do is to wet the transfer film with warm water, give it a few minutes to soak and then peel it off. It should work.

With a new product you have never used, always wise to try on something it doesn't matter about.

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Posted by Real G on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 1:02 AM

Good to know, as I have a set for a 1/32 Me-262.  I would think this format of transfer would have a hard time negotiating bumps on a model.

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Posted by snapdragonxxx on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 3:42 AM

In actual fact, While I have not tried these as yet, I am planning a build that will employ a set of these and also painting the insignia etc.

my take on these is that they work like decals, but are a wet version of dry rub down transfers that Archer make. They should go around corners and over bumps no problems, but as it says in the instructions, 6-8 hours before removing the carrier film, leaving the artwork/stencil on the model.

Maybe another snapdragon aircraft build with tutorials is in the pipeline!

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Posted by Phil_H on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 4:07 AM

And as always, any time you're trying something new, try it on a test hulk first before you use it on a live build. Wink

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 8:55 AM

What are wet transfers?  Are these the same thing as decals/decalcomanias?

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Phil_H on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 10:00 AM

Don Stauffer
What are wet transfers? Are these the same thing as decals/decalcomanias?

They are similar to regular decals but instead of having a backing paper, they have a clear carrier film on top of the visible side. You moisten the decal, lay it on the surface and allow it to dry. When dry, you peel the carrier film off, leaving the design on the surface. 

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Posted by kov1985 on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 5:55 PM

Thanks for the suggestion. I tried wetting it and still it wouldn’t peel up. My biggest trouble I think was that 99% of them were tiny little stencils about 3mm. The mr mark setter glued them down completely and wouldn’t let it up. I ended up very carefully scraping it up at the corner with my scalpel, then it peeled up fine. However it still left an unsightly square or rectangle around the stencil of where the film was. I’ve found that once I hit it with the flat coat afterwards it mostly disappeared so it was all good.

 

personally I prefer the old decals to these things. Either I got a dud batch or they need more development, because I followed those instructions to the letter, and still it tried to trip me before the finish line, like all things do.

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Posted by Phil_H on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 6:12 PM

kov1985
The mr mark setter glued them down completely and wouldn’t let it up.

That may well be the source of your problem. I've not used these decals but when I looked up the instructions online, the manufacturer's instructions say to use Mr Mark Softer. Mr Mark Softer is the solvent version in the green bottle. If you used Mr Mark Setter in the blue bottle, it does actually contain an adhesive agent and as you have found, will glue the decal, carrier film and all, snugly to your model. 

 

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